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vimesey
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Message 2522 of 2932 (903541)
12-12-2022 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2521 by Kleinman
12-12-2022 4:16 PM


Once again - are you capable of being wrong ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2524 of 2932 (903544)
12-12-2022 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 2523 by Kleinman
12-12-2022 4:49 PM


Everybody is capable of being wrong.
Do you deny that you are capable of being wrong ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2526 of 2932 (903550)
12-13-2022 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2525 by Kleinman
12-12-2022 5:19 PM


Right - had a good sleep and back on track.
Let's crack on.
Are you capable of being wrong ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2530 of 2932 (903556)
12-13-2022 8:32 AM
Reply to: Message 2528 by Kleinman
12-13-2022 7:44 AM


As ever with you, it's dodging the question.
All humans are capable of being wrong. Are you incapable of being wrong ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2534 of 2932 (903561)
12-13-2022 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 2531 by Kleinman
12-13-2022 8:40 AM


Ah the fragile ego of a man who cannot admit that he could be wrong.
I could be wrong - along with hundreds of thousands of scientists and museums, storerooms and universities stuffed full of evidence.
As a mathematician Kleinman, can you work out the probability of hundreds of thousands of highly intelligent scientists and mountains of evidence being wrong, and just you being right in incorrectly applying the mathematical model from scenario A to a different scenario B ? Feel free to show us the maths.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2615 of 2932 (903827)
12-17-2022 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2614 by dwise1
12-16-2022 8:09 PM


What makes me smile is picturing Kleinman as Plankton.
Makes it easier to deal with him.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2624 of 2932 (903850)
12-17-2022 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2623 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 12:38 PM


The linguistic experts at Merriam Webster are of a different view to you:
Likewise at the Cambridge Dictionary:
Another area in which you feel that you are correct and that the experts are wrong.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2627 of 2932 (903860)
12-17-2022 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2625 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 1:12 PM


And yet in the Cowboy Lingo Dictionary, caterwaul isn't mentioned:
Care to dig your hole any deeper on this one Kleinman ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 2765 of 2932 (905401)
01-26-2023 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 2764 by Kleinman
01-25-2023 10:48 AM


Re: Forewarned.
You can't explain the evolution of drug resistance but neither can biologists.
Yeah they can. Drug resistance is driven by mutation and selection - as are all evolutionary processes.
Have a read of this article, which explains it in some depth: Controlling the Evolution of Resistance - PMC

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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