Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."

Like creationists, who choose to believe a pack of lies.

I think I have said before, I will bet you that we do exactly that before your "savior" comes back. How much do you want to bet? Nobody cares what you dismiss. If you want to learn about all the action that IS going on in the field of abiogenesis, google it.

I'll be glad to discuss chemistry with you, ESPECIALLY organic chemistry. But that's a different topic. Start one. I dare ya. Some compounds are more difficult to synthesize than others but in fact, organic synthesis is difficult to prevent. The problem is with side-products that need to be selected out. Been there, done that. YOU are the one who is trying to divert the topic to abiogenesis. Start a new topic for that and we can run both at once.

I have offered to bet you that we will produce life in the lab before your "savior" returns.

You've said twice that you were impressed by my attention to detail - so it's a little late now to start pretending that you're not interested in what I say. How would you know what I have in support of abiogenesis? If you're not afraid to find out, start a topic. But I HAVE been discussing that. Sixty-four posts in this very thread, and counting. And you've QUOTED some of them. Try to maintain at least a thin fiber of connection to reality.And YOU are the one who is trying to divert the discussion to off-topic abiogenesis.

And yet you keep replying. They already know. Where do you think we get our information? And you keep replying to them. I don't think I've ever started a topic. It isn't what I do.YOU are the one who claims to have the goods on abiogenesis and you claim I know nothing. Put your money where your mouth is.

Do you understand the difference between "improbable" and "impossible"?Unless the probability is ZERO, it is possible.

I said, "google it."

One thing at a time. Are you going to take me up on my offer to school you in chemistry or not?

Put up or shut up. Start a topic.

Go ahead and show us your calculations on that. Correct. Are you that ignorant about probability? Ask Kleinman. I think he's smart enough to tell you the same thing I'm telling you. That depends entirely on the context. If the lottery is drawn once a week, it would take almost twenty years for me to win 1000 times. Certainly possible. But if the lottery was drawn once a year, it would take a thousand years. Not possible (but only because I wouldn't be alive. My numbers could still win).You don't have any basis for your claim about the probability of abiogenesis. Show us your calculations. What chemicals are you starting with? What end product are you shooting for?

Tell your disciple.

What do you know about the science? You admit that you're not even aware of the action in the field of abiogenesis.All living things are made of chemicals. If the chemicals can be put together to make living things, it's ridiculous to pretend that it's impossible. Reality is not impossible. You're claiming that "you can't get there from here," which is a joke.

Don't be silly. Dredge wouldn't recognize the word "stochastic" if it sat down beside him in church and helped him eat Jesus.Nobody is saying that abiogenesis is a stochastic process. Chemistry is entirely deterministic. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, there's a reason why we have H₂O and not H₉O. (And if you can figure out why I said "9", there's a cookie in it for you.)

In case he does sit down beside you in church, how will you recognize him? And will the two of you fight over the tastiest bits of Jesus?