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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2593 of 2932 (903757)
12-16-2022 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 2582 by Kleinman
12-15-2022 2:13 PM


Kleinman writes:
Look at all those imaginary links that ringo has! They are just floating around his head.
No, they're floating around the internet where anybody can see them. You can't wish them away.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2596 of 2932 (903766)
12-16-2022 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2595 by Kleinman
12-16-2022 12:20 PM


Kleinman writes:
So that's why ringo posts those links, they're floating around the internet.
Keep flailing.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2617 of 2932 (903833)
12-17-2022 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 2597 by Kleinman
12-16-2022 1:59 PM


Kleinman writes:
I'm not the one claiming there are links that explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Tell it to Google.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2619 of 2932 (903842)
12-17-2022 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 2618 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 11:23 AM


Kleinman writes:
They are your imaginary links, tell Google yourself.
Don't be silly. I got those links from Google. I don't need to tell them about their own links. If YOU think they're posting "imaginary" links, YOU need to tell them.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2621 of 2932 (903846)
12-17-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2620 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 11:59 AM


Kleinman writes:
If they werem't imaginary links, you would post them.
Non sequitur.
Kleinman writes:
It's that easy, instead of all your caterwauling.
Caterwauling is a sound. There are no sounds in any of my posts.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2622 of 2932 (903848)
12-17-2022 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 2346 by Dredge
11-29-2022 10:14 AM


Re: Creationist Thermodynamics
Dredge writes:
Kleinman writes:
AZPaul3 can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail but can explain how reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals.
LOL!!
Do YOU understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C?
Kleinman doesn't. He's repeating an old creationist canard that no science-minded person has ever suggested.
Are you laughing at how stupid Kleinman is?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2638 of 2932 (903941)
12-19-2022 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2623 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 12:38 PM


Kleinman writes:
The fake cowboy thinks that caterwauling has to be a sound.
Thank you for demonstrating how stupid creationists are.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2639 of 2932 (903942)
12-19-2022 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 2628 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 2:36 PM


Kleinman writes:
Spoken like a true mathematical incompetent.
Well, you're the one who doesn't understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → c. That's incompetent.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2641 of 2932 (903955)
12-19-2022 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 2640 by Kleinman
12-19-2022 11:33 AM


Kleinman writes:
Post some of your fake links that explain how drug resistance evolves and whay cancer treatments fail. And do it without making a sound.
If you're hearing sounds, they're in your head. The sounds of my keyboard do not reach anywhere near the border.
And your'e still evading the issue. Demonstrate your mathematical competency by explaining how A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. If you don't understand that, you don't understand either evolution or basic mathematics.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2660 of 2932 (904474)
12-30-2022 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2659 by Kleinman
12-29-2022 9:51 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You've got a bunch of numbskulls claiming that reptiles evolved into birds and fish evolved into mammals millions of years ago....
The only numbskull saying that is you.
I have tried to explain to you mathematically that what science says is A → B and A → C, whereas YOU and ONLY you are saying that B → C. Why do you not understand that those are two different things? How can you even dare to talk about mathematics when you don't understand such a simple fact of mathematics?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2662 of 2932 (904476)
12-30-2022 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2661 by Kleinman
12-30-2022 12:16 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
ringo is a liar...
Go ahead and point out anything I've said that isn't true.
Kleinman writes:
... a fake cowboy...
A fake girl maybe....
Kleinman writes:
...and a fake mathematician...
Well. Kleinman is the one who won't acknowledge that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. So... Kelinman either:
1. Doesn't understand simple mathematics, OR
2. Is too cowardly to admit that he's wrong about evolution, OR
3. Is just a slimy troll who will say ANYTHING, no matter how stupid, just to get attention.
Kleinman writes:
Is everyone in this bunch of numbskulls as dumb as ringo?
There are many people here who are smarter than me. All of them understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. None of them has challenged me on that simple fact.
YOU, on the other hand, do NOT understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. Therefore, YOU are dumber than me.
Kleinman writes:
That's your cue to post about five messages that say nothing but fill space.
As I have already mentioned, I don't follow instructions well, so I will say this five times in ONE message:
Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my!
Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my!
Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my!
Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my!
Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my!
(whic is all YOU have posted in 1600 messages.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2668 of 2932 (904509)
12-31-2022 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 2663 by Kleinman
12-30-2022 12:58 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
ringo writes:
Go ahead and point out anything I've said that isn't true.
Oh right, reptiles don't evolve into birds and fish don't evolve into mammals.
That' is correct. They don't.
Reptiles and birds evolved from a common ancestor. Fish and mammals evolved from a common ancestor.
You and your cousin descended from a common ancestor. Your cousin did not descend from you.
I have tried to explain it to you mathematically: B descended from A and C descended from A. That does NOT mean that C descended from B.
But you don't understand the math.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2670 of 2932 (904519)
12-31-2022 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 2669 by Kleinman
12-31-2022 11:50 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
The fake cowboy and fake mathematician...
I'm more of a mathematician than you. You don't understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C.
Kleinman writes:
... knows how evolution worked millions of years ago but can't explain how evolution works today.
You're getting ahead of yourself. You need to demonstrate that you have an inkling of an understanding of evolution before anybody is going to answer your inane questions.
Demonstrate that you understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C and THEN I will try to explain to you how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Kleinman writes:
If you understand the math, explain it.
I have already pointed out YOUR misunderstanding of the math, twice in this post alone. YOU need to explain it before anybody can take you seriously.
But you don't, you are a fake.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2673 of 2932 (904526)
12-31-2022 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2672 by Kleinman
12-31-2022 12:46 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Why don't you get your math published?
Because it's something that is understood by every elementary school student. The only person I have ever encountered who doesn't understand it is you.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2676 of 2932 (904530)
12-31-2022 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2675 by Kleinman
12-31-2022 12:56 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Too bad you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
As I said, you're not ready for that. You don't understand the very simplest basics of evolution, so how could you possibly understand how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
Demostrate that you understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. Then we can move on.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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