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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
AZPaul3
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Message 2626 of 2932 (903859)
12-17-2022 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2620 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 11:59 AM


For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.

The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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vimesey
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Message 2627 of 2932 (903860)
12-17-2022 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2625 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 1:12 PM


And yet in the Cowboy Lingo Dictionary, caterwaul isn't mentioned:
Care to dig your hole any deeper on this one Kleinman ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Kleinman
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Message 2628 of 2932 (903862)
12-17-2022 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2626 by AZPaul3
12-17-2022 1:36 PM


Kleinman:
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
AZPaul3:
CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.

Spoken like a true mathematical incompetent. Oh, pardon me, written like a true mathematical incompetent.

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Kleinman
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Message 2629 of 2932 (903863)
12-17-2022 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2627 by vimesey
12-17-2022 1:45 PM


vimesey:
And yet in the Cowboy Lingo Dictionary, caterwaul isn't mentioned:
quote:
Cowboy Lingo Dictionary
vimesey:
Care to dig your hole any deeper on this one Kleinman ?


He sure does caterwaul a lot.
Fun with Words – Cowboy Slang, Lingo, and Jargon - The Chief Storyteller
Caterwauling: usually terrible singing, or complaining
Now tell me how I evolved the ability to do photosynthesis.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2630 of 2932 (903864)
12-17-2022 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2628 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 2:36 PM


Oh, pardon me, written like a true mathematical incompetent.
Exactly. Thank you Mr. Obvious. That's what I'm warning everyone about. Your papers were written by a true mathematical incompetent.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2631 of 2932 (903865)
12-17-2022 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2630 by AZPaul3
12-17-2022 2:46 PM


Kleinman:
Oh, pardon me, written like a true mathematical incompetent.
AZPaul3:
Exactly. Thank you Mr. Obvious. That's what I'm warning everyone about. Your papers were written by a true mathematical incompetent.

Now that AZPaul3 has shown his mathematical competency, he will now explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. I like your Wizard of Oz picture.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2632 of 2932 (903866)
12-17-2022 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2631 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 3:07 PM


Now that AZPaul3 has shown his mathematical competency, he will now ...
Your powers of prognostication really suck. Is that part of the mental disconnect you have with math and evolution and genetics and reality?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2633 of 2932 (903867)
12-17-2022 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 2632 by AZPaul3
12-17-2022 3:19 PM


Kleinman:
Now that AZPaul3 has shown his mathematical competency, he will now ...
AZPaul3:
Your powers of prognostication really suck. Is that part of the mental disconnect you have with math and evolution and genetics and reality?

What, no Wizard of Oz picture? Maybe this will do it. AZPaul3 will now give us a mathematical description of the Kishony and Lenski experiments. I prognosticate that it won't happen.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2634 of 2932 (903868)
12-17-2022 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2633 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 3:47 PM


I prognosticate that it won't happen.
Very good. You're improving.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2635 of 2932 (903870)
12-17-2022 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2634 by AZPaul3
12-17-2022 3:51 PM


Kleinman:
I prognosticate that it won't happen.
AZPaul3:
Very good. You're improving.

It's easy to prognosticate that you don't understand why drug resistance evolves and how cancer treatments fail. And to ask you to do the mathematics of the Kishony and Lenski experiments is like asking a biologist to do the math. They can't do it either.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2636 of 2932 (903871)
12-17-2022 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 2635 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 4:18 PM



Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2637 of 2932 (903872)
12-17-2022 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2636 by AZPaul3
12-17-2022 4:27 PM


I knew you had it in you.

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ringo
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Message 2638 of 2932 (903941)
12-19-2022 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2623 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 12:38 PM


Kleinman writes:
The fake cowboy thinks that caterwauling has to be a sound.
Thank you for demonstrating how stupid creationists are.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 2639 of 2932 (903942)
12-19-2022 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 2628 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 2:36 PM


Kleinman writes:
Spoken like a true mathematical incompetent.
Well, you're the one who doesn't understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → c. That's incompetent.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
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Message 2640 of 2932 (903947)
12-19-2022 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 2638 by ringo
12-19-2022 10:49 AM


Kleinman:
The fake cowboy thinks that caterwauling has to be a sound.
ringo:
Thank you for demonstrating how stupid creationists are.

Watch the caterwauling fake cowboy post his fake links describing how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Message 2639
Kleinman:
Spoken like a true mathematical incompetent.
ringo:
Well, you're the one who doesn't understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → c. That's incompetent.

Now the caterwauling fake cowboy wants to be a caterwauling fake mathematician. Post some of your fake links that explain how drug resistance evolves and whay cancer treatments fail. And do it without making a sound.

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