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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
Kleinman
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Message 2611 of 2932 (903802)
12-16-2022 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2608 by dwise1
12-16-2022 6:32 PM


Tanypteryx:
Conman the Bullshitter's bizarre continuous stream of vitriol and insults is something I have never encountered before in discussions of scientific subjects. I am at a loss to explain what motivates his behavior here and everywhere else he's left a record on the web. In this thread he has actually only endlessly repeated the same dozen or so sentences and clickbait to his vanity "papers," but it's all just the same bullshit.
dwise1:
What motivates all of Kleinman's horrific behavior?

Tany wishes he had any kind of paper that explains how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. What motivates people to believe that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals when they can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?

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Kleinman
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Message 2612 of 2932 (903803)
12-16-2022 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2609 by Tanypteryx
12-16-2022 6:33 PM


Tanypteryx:
Like I said, no content from Conman the Bullshit Peddler, just repetitious drivel. It does not look like he is going to have any success at sabotaging science.
Tany has learned all kinds of science chasing bugs around, but he can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. But he does know that a germ cell line can get 200k retroviral infections that don't harm that cell line. That is Tany's science. Tany, tell us how that happens.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2613 of 2932 (903805)
12-16-2022 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2610 by Kleinman
12-16-2022 6:55 PM


AZPaul3 can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail as well as he can explain how reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals.
Yup. It's all the same mechanism. Can you guess which mechanism?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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dwise1
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Message 2614 of 2932 (903811)
12-16-2022 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2611 by Kleinman
12-16-2022 6:56 PM


Yep, typical creationist malfeasance.
You can always tell a creationist, but you just can't tell him anything.
Have you made an appointment with Psych yet? You shouldn't wait too long. Your symptoms are worsening.

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vimesey
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Message 2615 of 2932 (903827)
12-17-2022 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2614 by dwise1
12-16-2022 8:09 PM


What makes me smile is picturing Kleinman as Plankton.
Makes it easier to deal with him.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Kleinman
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Message 2616 of 2932 (903829)
12-17-2022 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 2615 by vimesey
12-17-2022 4:49 AM


vimesey:
What makes me smile is picturing Kleinman as Plankton.
So, that's how the eye evolved, it was in plankton. Do you want to tell me how I evolved the ability to do photosynthesis?

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ringo
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Message 2617 of 2932 (903833)
12-17-2022 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 2597 by Kleinman
12-16-2022 1:59 PM


Kleinman writes:
I'm not the one claiming there are links that explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Tell it to Google.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
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Message 2618 of 2932 (903840)
12-17-2022 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 2617 by ringo
12-17-2022 10:39 AM


Kleinman:
I'm not the one claiming there are links that explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
ringo:
Tell it to Google.

They are your imaginary links, tell Google yourself.

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ringo
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Message 2619 of 2932 (903842)
12-17-2022 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 2618 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 11:23 AM


Kleinman writes:
They are your imaginary links, tell Google yourself.
Don't be silly. I got those links from Google. I don't need to tell them about their own links. If YOU think they're posting "imaginary" links, YOU need to tell them.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
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Message 2620 of 2932 (903845)
12-17-2022 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2619 by ringo
12-17-2022 11:25 AM


Kleinman:
They are your imaginary links, tell Google yourself.
ringo:
Don't be silly. I got those links from Google. I don't need to tell them about their own links. If YOU think they're posting "imaginary" links, YOU need to tell them.

If they werem't imaginary links, you would post them. I'll show you again how to do it. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
It's that easy, instead of all your caterwauling.

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ringo
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Message 2621 of 2932 (903846)
12-17-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2620 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 11:59 AM


Kleinman writes:
If they werem't imaginary links, you would post them.
Non sequitur.
Kleinman writes:
It's that easy, instead of all your caterwauling.
Caterwauling is a sound. There are no sounds in any of my posts.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 2622 of 2932 (903848)
12-17-2022 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 2346 by Dredge
11-29-2022 10:14 AM


Re: Creationist Thermodynamics
Dredge writes:
Kleinman writes:
AZPaul3 can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail but can explain how reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals.
LOL!!
Do YOU understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C?
Kleinman doesn't. He's repeating an old creationist canard that no science-minded person has ever suggested.
Are you laughing at how stupid Kleinman is?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
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Message 2623 of 2932 (903849)
12-17-2022 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2621 by ringo
12-17-2022 12:04 PM


Kleinman:
It's that easy, instead of all your caterwauling.
ringo:
Caterwauling is a sound. There are no sounds in any of my posts.

The fake cowboy thinks that caterwauling has to be a sound.

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vimesey
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Message 2624 of 2932 (903850)
12-17-2022 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2623 by Kleinman
12-17-2022 12:38 PM


The linguistic experts at Merriam Webster are of a different view to you:
Likewise at the Cambridge Dictionary:
Another area in which you feel that you are correct and that the experts are wrong.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2625 of 2932 (903855)
12-17-2022 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2624 by vimesey
12-17-2022 12:44 PM


vimesey:
The linguistic experts at Merriam Webster are of a different view to you:
vimesey doesn't speak cowboy slang. And vimesey won't explain how I got the ability to do photosynthesis. I wonder if vimesey can do mathematics. Just what have you been smoking? All it does for you is make you caterwaul.

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