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Author | Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Note the respondent did not dispute the accuracy of the warning.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:How can I dispute AZPaul3. He knows much more about probability theory than the peer-reviewers and editors of Statistics in Medicine. And AZPaul3's explanation of biological evolution is crystal clear. In fact, it is invisible. He knows as much about how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail as do biologists. Nothing!
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
The problem is,(or seems to be) that you always insist on framing the argument.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Phat:Yeah, right, like I did the Kishony and Lenski experiments. You've got a bunch of numbskulls claiming that reptiles evolved into birds and fish evolved into mammals millions of years ago and you have real, measurable, and repeatable experiments that demonstrate how evolution actually works. Choose your frame.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
The only numbskull saying that is you. You've got a bunch of numbskulls claiming that reptiles evolved into birds and fish evolved into mammals millions of years ago.... I have tried to explain to you mathematically that what science says is A → B and A → C, whereas YOU and ONLY you are saying that B → C. Why do you not understand that those are two different things? How can you even dare to talk about mathematics when you don't understand such a simple fact of mathematics?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:ringo is a liar, a fake cowboy, and a fake mathematician who doesn't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Go Google that you dumbass fake. Is everyone in this bunch of numbskulls as dumb as ringo? The only thing real about ringo is he is a dummy. That's your cue to post about five messages that say nothing but fill space.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
Go ahead and point out anything I've said that isn't true.
ringo is a liar... Kleinman writes:
A fake girl maybe....
... a fake cowboy... Kleinman writes:
Well. Kleinman is the one who won't acknowledge that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. So... Kelinman either: ...and a fake mathematician...1. Doesn't understand simple mathematics, OR 2. Is too cowardly to admit that he's wrong about evolution, OR 3. Is just a slimy troll who will say ANYTHING, no matter how stupid, just to get attention. Kleinman writes:
There are many people here who are smarter than me. All of them understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. None of them has challenged me on that simple fact. Is everyone in this bunch of numbskulls as dumb as ringo? YOU, on the other hand, do NOT understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C. Therefore, YOU are dumber than me.
Kleinman writes:
As I have already mentioned, I don't follow instructions well, so I will say this five times in ONE message: That's your cue to post about five messages that say nothing but fill space.Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my! Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my! Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my! Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my! Kishony and Lenski and Desai, oh my! (whic is all YOU have posted in 1600 messages.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Oh right, reptiles don't evolve into birds and fish don't evolve into mammals. You must be one of those fake cowboys who tell tall tales. Tell us all about those fake transitions you have. And you still don't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2578 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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Kleinbottle writes:
Oh right, reptiles don't evolve into birds and fish don't evolve into mammals. You must be one of those fake cowboys who tell tall tales. Tell us all about those fake transitions you have. And you still don't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. you can't find your way out of the bottle you are in, bye bye."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
This is uncalled for. Forum Guidelines
Teasing each other is one thing. Insulting one another is off limits.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8
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Kleinbottle writes:
Oh right, reptiles don't evolve into birds and fish don't evolve into mammals. You must be one of those fake cowboys who tell tall tales. Tell us all about those fake transitions you have. And you still don't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. you can't find your way out of the bottle you are in, And he still cannot ever tell us how the Internet works, nor computers, etc. So then according to him none of that works? At least that's what I keep getting from him. That until absolutely everybody knows how everything works, then none of it could possibly work? Is it just me, or isn't that what he's been insisting on so fervently to everybody? Complete and utter bullshit! OBTW, your reference to the Klein bottle. It's basically the 3-D equivalent to the Möbius strip in that a Klein bottle has no differentiation between the outside and the inside of the same bottle. Which I guess means that it must be devoid of any actual content. So by referring to "Little Man" as "Klein bottle", you are classifying him as devoid of content. OK, that certainly does fit. Cool! The cultural footnote is that Clifford Stoll later become interested in constructing Klein bottles.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:This isn't going to be one of those long good byes, is it? And obviously, you aren't going to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail, so I'll help you on your way out the door. For a single selection pressure: The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance That's your cue AZPaul3.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
That' is correct. They don't. ringo writes:
Oh right, reptiles don't evolve into birds and fish don't evolve into mammals. Go ahead and point out anything I've said that isn't true. Reptiles and birds evolved from a common ancestor. Fish and mammals evolved from a common ancestor. You and your cousin descended from a common ancestor. Your cousin did not descend from you. I have tried to explain it to you mathematically: B descended from A and C descended from A. That does NOT mean that C descended from B. But you don't understand the math.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:The fake cowboy and fake mathematician knows how evolution worked millions of years ago but can't explain how evolution works today. That includes explaining how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. If you understand the math, explain it. But you don't, you are a fake.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
I'm more of a mathematician than you. You don't understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C.
The fake cowboy and fake mathematician... Kleinman writes:
You're getting ahead of yourself. You need to demonstrate that you have an inkling of an understanding of evolution before anybody is going to answer your inane questions. ... knows how evolution worked millions of years ago but can't explain how evolution works today. Demonstrate that you understand that A → B and A → C are not the same as B → C and THEN I will try to explain to you how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Kleinman writes:
I have already pointed out YOUR misunderstanding of the math, twice in this post alone. YOU need to explain it before anybody can take you seriously. If you understand the math, explain it. But you don't, you are a fake.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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