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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Theodoric:Again? All right, for you. 1. It takes energy to survive and replicate 2. The carrying capacity of an environment represents the total amount of usable energy available for populations. 3. The most effective variant using that energy will have higher reproductive fitness than less effective variants and over time, the most effective variant may fix and the less effective variants will be driven to extinction. 4. This competition between different variants will reduce the number of replications that any variants can do reducing the number of replications of all variants in the population slowing the descent with modification process and adaptation.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Theodoric:So thermodynamics isn't the only subject you have mastered.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
That has nothing to do with what I said. All you have to do is post a link that shows how antimicrobial resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
I prefer to stick with the people who know what they're talking about. ... you can be wrong about whatever you want.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
I had the same professor for two classes. He told us that the first time he did thermodynamics, as an undergraduate, he didn't understand it. The second time he did it, as a grad student, he thought he understood it. But when he had to teach it, he realized he didn't understand it as well as he thought. So, you never studied thermodynamics? I only offered you a KINDERGARTEN-level thermodynamics lesson because I don't pretend to be an expert thermodynamicist - and I don't expect you to understand anything but the kindergarten level.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
And you are still showing that you don't. You have shown you know the ABCs of biological evolution. You have been saying that C evolved from B. That is a serious misunderstanding of biology AND a serious misunderstanding of mathemqtics. Do you understand yet that you are wrong about B evolving into C? Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
I know there's a difference between sexual and asexual reproduction, which you can't seem to grasp. And I know that you can't discuss DNA without understanding that asexual reproduction involves one parent while sexual reproduction involves the combination of two parents. You don't seem to grasp that either. So thermodynamics isn't the only subject you have mastered.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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So, you are claiming that combination therapy doesn't work for HIV, weeds, and insects? Your speculations about sexual reproduction and asexual reproduction are countered by the facts.
Please show where I have said anything remotely similar to this. I am addressing your dishonest posts. I will leave it up to those more capable than I am to address your lack of understanding of the math and science. I will concentrate on your logical fallacies, deceitful posts and your lies.Just because you do not understand Lenski does not mean he has to alter the findings to meet the expectations of a known crank. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I notice you did not answer. I think we can assume you do not know or have an answer for any question you do not answer.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
All you are doing is spouting. You need to provide evidence and show what each of these points actually affect real world situations. Asserting shows nothing.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Sure it does! You keep claiming that biologists have explained how antimicrobial drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. They have not explained it.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:So, post a link written by a biologist that explains how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:You had an impressive instructor. The thermodynamics that applies to competition is pretty simple. The hardest part of doing the mathematics for the Lenski experiment is the bottleneck which introduces a discontinuity into the mathematics. That discontinuity was not that difficult to deal with if you have experience dealing with discontinuities. I published an engineering paper years ago that dealt with a discontinuity. That's way out of your ballpark.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Your an expert. Now show us how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fail. Which letter is that? Maybe you better go to the letter "E" for the Kishony experiment.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 364 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:So, show us how you do the mathematics of recombination in a population.
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