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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: King of the strawman
Kleinman:
So, you are claiming that combination therapy doesn't work for HIV, weeds, and insects? Your speculations about sexual reproduction and asexual reproduction are countered by the facts.Theodoric:
Please show where I have said anything remotely similar to this. I am addressing your dishonest posts. I will leave it up to those more capable than I am to address your lack of understanding of the math and science. I will concentrate on your logical fallacies, deceitful posts and your lies.
Just because you do not understand Lenski does not mean he has to alter the findings to meet the expectations of a known crank.
So, now you claim that combination therapy worked for the treatment of HIV, weeds, and insects. Why don't you make up your mind.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
I notice you did not answer. I think we can assume you do not know or have an answer for any question you do not answer.
I can't help it if you don't understand simple thermodynamics.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: 1st law of Theromdynamics
Theodoric:
All you are doing is spouting. You need to provide evidence and show what each of these points actually affect real world situations. Asserting shows nothing.
Do you mean I can't make up imaginary populations with an imaginary selection condition as Taq does? I guess I'll have to stick to the Kishony and Lenski experiments, the treatment of HIV with 3 drug combination therapy, and treating weeds and insects with combination therapy. Why can't I imagine just like Taq?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 2149 of 2932 (902598)
11-25-2022 2:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 2144 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:17 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Again not answering the question Seems you are out of your field and expertise and just repeat the same mantra. Liar and a fraud.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 2150 of 2932 (902599)
11-25-2022 2:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 2146 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:21 PM
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Re: King of the strawman
More lies.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 2151 of 2932 (902600)
11-25-2022 2:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 2147 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:22 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Still evading not answering. Liar and a fraud.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
Again not answering the question
Seems you are out of your field and expertise and just repeat the same mantra. Liar and a fraud.
Seems like you are out of something too.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: King of the strawman
Theodoric:
More lies.
That's not it.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
Still evading not answering. Liar and a fraud.
Try again.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Message 2155 of 2932 (902613)
11-25-2022 3:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 2143 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:16 PM
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Re: Resorting to spamming us
Conman the Bullshitter writes: The thermodynamics that applies to competition is pretty simple. The hardest part of doing the mathematics for the Lenski experiment is the bottleneck which introduces a discontinuity into the mathematics. That discontinuity was not that difficult to deal with if you have experience dealing with discontinuities. I published an engineering paper years ago that dealt with a discontinuity. That's way out of your ballpark. So, you still cannot actually explain thermodynamics and instead start handwaving about discontinuities, nice deflection. What a bullshit Peddler! Next the Conman is going to work out how the math of asexual and sexual reproduction are the same and how sex is not a random sample, proving that sex is an atheist illusion.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Resorting to spamming us
Kleinman:
The thermodynamics that applies to competition is pretty simple. The hardest part of doing the mathematics for the Lenski experiment is the bottleneck which introduces a discontinuity into the mathematics. That discontinuity was not that difficult to deal with if you have experience dealing with discontinuities. I published an engineering paper years ago that dealt with a discontinuity. That's way out of your ballpark.Tanypteryx:
So, you still cannot actually explain thermodynamics and instead start handwaving about discontinuities, nice deflection. What a bullshit Peddler! Next the Conman is going to work out how the math of asexual and sexual reproduction are the same and how sex is not a random sample, proving that sex is an atheist illusion.
Now the bug chaser is going to tell us how to do the mathematics of discontinuities in populations caused by bottlenecks. As soon as he learns how to do the mathematics of biological competition, descent with modification, and recombination. He'll do that right after he explains how 200k retroviral infections of a germ cell line do no harm. His bugs sure have a lot to teach him.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Message 2157 of 2932 (902617)
11-25-2022 4:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 2156 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 3:51 PM
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Re: Resorting to spamming us
Conman the Bullshitter writes: Tanypteryx writes: So, you still cannot actually explain thermodynamics and instead starts handwaving about discontinuities, nice deflection. What a bullshit Peddler! Next the Conman is going to work out how the math of asexual and sexual reproduction are the same and how sex is not a random sample, proving that sex is an atheist illusion. Now the bug chaser is going to tell us how to do the mathematics of discontinuities in populations caused by bottlenecks. As soon as he learns how to do the mathematics of biological competition, descent with modification, and recombination. He'll do that right after he explains how 200k retroviral infections of a germ cell line do no harm. His bugs sure have a lot to teach him. The Conman still cannot tell us a single thing about thermodynamics and cannot tell the difference between asexual and sexual reproduction. As soon as he learns about thermodynamics he tell us how the heat was hot. You are peddling nothing but bullshit Conman. Tell us again about the Gypsies creating all the fossils, that's a good one.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 2158 of 2932 (902618)
11-25-2022 4:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 2152 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 2:53 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I have never claimed this is my field and in fact have stated so. I am concentrating on you evasive, dishonest answers and your non answers. You use numerous logical fallacies and lies. Until you stop those behaviors anything you say or claim is irrelevant.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Resorting to spamming us
Tanypteryx:
So, you still cannot actually explain thermodynamics and instead starts handwaving about discontinuities, nice deflection. What a bullshit Peddler! Next the Conman is going to work out how the math of asexual and sexual reproduction are the same and how sex is not a random sample, proving that sex is an atheist illusion.Kleinman:
Now the bug chaser is going to tell us how to do the mathematics of discontinuities in populations caused by bottlenecks. As soon as he learns how to do the mathematics of biological competition, descent with modification, and recombination. He'll do that right after he explains how 200k retroviral infections of a germ cell line do no harm. His bugs sure have a lot to teach him.
Tanypteryx:
The Conman still cannot tell us a single thing about thermodynamics and cannot tell the difference between asexual and sexual reproduction. As soon as he learns about thermodynamics he tell us how the heat was hot. You are peddling nothing but bullshit Conman. Tell us again about the Gypsies creating all the fossils, that's a good one.
Is that what the bugs teach you?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 356 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
I have never claimed this is my field and in fact have stated so. I am concentrating on you evasive, dishonest answers and your non answers. You use numerous logical fallacies and lies. Until you stop those behaviors anything you say or claim is irrelevant.
Do you mean to say you are not an expert on thermodynamics? You could have fooled ringo.
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