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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 1981 of 2932 (902304)
11-21-2022 1:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 1977 by AZPaul3
11-21-2022 12:41 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
Tany will now explain to us biological evolution which he knows nothing about.
AZPaul3:
In actuality he knows more than you and your misrepresentations. You don't know evolution, genetics or math.
Yeah, right, like you or Tany are going to explain the Kishony or Lenski experiments. Lake Mead will dry up long before that happens.
Kleinman:
And then he will explain how 200k retrovirus infections cause no harm.
AZPaul3:
This is one of your biggest lies. No one ever said virus infections cause no harm. It is failed viral insertions that enter the gene pool not the live virus itself. This has been explained to you yet you insist in perpetrating you lies.
So Taq's example of a retroviral infection in koalas is a special case? Most retroviruses cause no harm. Tell that to the people suffering HIV.
Kleinman:
And finally he will explain that my papers don't get cited but they do.
AZPaul3:
The only citations to any of your screeds are yours. So you fake you citations, you fake your sources and you fake your analysis and results.
AZPaul3 is a skilled researcher except he doesn't do any research. I hope you like it dry, real dry.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
They don't agree with him, because they do not understand their own experiments and research. Only Kleinman truly understands the significance of those experiments. Everyone else is wrong because Kelinman's math skills are the only way to understand the experiments and what they truly mean.
I think I got that right.
Not quite, they don't understand their own experiments. Kishony doesn't understand why his experiment won't work with two drugs (until I explained why to him), and Lenski doesn't understand why competition slows adaptation (that is until I explained it to him).
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
In fact, Lenski didn't understand why competition slows adaptation until I explained it to him.Theodoric:
LOL.
So there was this time I called Justice Roberts and explained the Constitution to him.
You are confused Theodoric. Biological evolution is not in the Constitution. And Lenski does not understand why competition slows adaptation.
Distribution of fixed beneficial mutations and the rate of adaptation in asexual populationsWhen large asexual populations adapt, competition between simultaneously segregating mutations slows the rate of adaptation and restricts the set of mutations that eventually fix. Edited by Kleinman, : Added quote
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1984 of 2932 (902308)
11-21-2022 1:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 1982 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 1:34 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
... and Lenski doesn't understand why competition slows adaptation (that is until I explained it to him). What bullshit. You did no such thing. You lie! You wouldn't understand Lenski if he came here and explained his results personally. You are a liar and you do not know anything of the experiments you try to debunk. Show us your dialogue with Linski where you correct his science. It doesn't exist. You lied.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 1985 of 2932 (902310)
11-21-2022 2:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 1984 by AZPaul3
11-21-2022 1:57 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
... and Lenski doesn't understand why competition slows adaptation (that is until I explained it to him).
AZPaul3:
What bullshit. You did no such thing. You lie!
You wouldn't understand Lenski if he came here and explained his results personally.
You are a liar and you do not know anything of the experiments you try to debunk.
I still have my communication with Lenki on ResearchGate. You are a dummy and I hope you like it dry, real dry.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1986 of 2932 (902313)
11-21-2022 3:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 1985 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 2:06 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I still have my communication with Lenki on ResearchGate. Sure you do. You faked that too? Damn. There is nothing you won't lie about.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 1987 of 2932 (902315)
11-21-2022 3:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 1986 by AZPaul3
11-21-2022 3:02 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
I still have my communication with Lenki on ResearchGate.
AZPaul3:
Sure you do. You faked that too? Damn. There is nothing you won't lie about.
Believe what you want, you are wrong about that as well. I hope you like it dry, real dry.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1988 of 2932 (902321)
11-21-2022 4:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 1987 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 3:12 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Believe what you want ... What I know as fact is that you have lied about every number, every process and every conclusion you have made in your posts. I do not have to "believe" you are a fake and a liar. You have provided ample evidence.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 1989 of 2932 (902322)
11-21-2022 4:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 1988 by AZPaul3
11-21-2022 4:01 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
Believe what you want ...AZPaul3:
What I know as fact is that you have lied about every number, every process and every conclusion you have made in your posts.
I do not have to "believe" you are a fake and a liar. You have provided ample evidence.
Yeah, right, great keeper of the truth. I hope you like it dry, real dry.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1990 of 2932 (902323)
11-21-2022 4:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 1989 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 4:13 PM
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Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Note you don't dispute with actual facts these accusations of fraud. You know Lenski? You correspond with him? Invite him here to tell us how you schooled him on his own results. I defy you to find any support for your views in the science community. You're a fraud, Kleinman.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1991 of 2932 (902324)
11-21-2022 5:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 1961 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 7:58 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman writes: Tany is the worst kind of example. He takes an observation whether it be fossils or genetic sequences he calls ERVs and draws any kind of conclusion he wants but ignores the Kishony and Lenski experiments which are repeatable and measurable. It would never enter his mind that these are sequences that control the expression of coding genes so that he doesn't have hair growing out of his eyeballs and fingernails growing from his nose.
Tany is just being a good Darwinist ... a good Darwinist ignores any evidence that doesn't conform to Darwinist dictrine. Typical cult behaviour ... inconvenient truths are not allowed to get a foot in the door.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1992 of 2932 (902325)
11-21-2022 5:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 1991 by Dredge
11-21-2022 5:00 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I think you mean "doctrine".
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1993 of 2932 (902327)
11-21-2022 5:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 1991 by Dredge
11-21-2022 5:00 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Darwinist ignores any evidence that doesn't conform to Darwinist dictrine. That's right. We know the reality as evidenced. We have no need for your religiously inspired unevidenced bullshit.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1994 of 2932 (902328)
11-21-2022 5:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 1992 by Dredge
11-21-2022 5:04 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Yes, I meant "doctrine". Unfortunately my "edit" function doesn't work, so I can't amend mistakes like that.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1995 of 2932 (902329)
11-21-2022 5:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 1994 by Dredge
11-21-2022 5:07 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Dredge, it hardly matters. You're wrong no matter how you spell it.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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