How can we regulate guns ... ?

Jon argues: You will have to explain it in much more detail. What could be simpler than a plastic card with a PIN? We want to MINIMIZE the cost, don't we?

ICANT observes: ...which is why I suggested that the NRA be given the job.

ICANT writes: Man, where have you been? Don't you know that they changed teams with each other a long time ago? Those Republicans are today's Democrats and those Democrats became Dixiecrats then Republicans. The LBJ election showed the completion of the switch.

ICANT writes: But apparently it's not the way it works in every state. We already know you can't get the loophole in Florida where you are without going underground into the criminal world.From wikipedia: Furthermore, NOTE THE HORRIBLE MATHEMATICS!!!!7 + 4 + 1 = 12 and 50-12 = 38, not 33. And what about DC? But even still, it is evident that background checks are not required for many states at gun shows where a private exchange is made.So, ICANT, even in your own state there seem to be places where you don't need to get a background check.Personally I'm astonished that the People's Republic Of Taxachusetts is not listed in the first group!! Note that Newtown is in that first group. This is like minors getting someone to buy alcohol or cigarettes for them. This is why the owner who bought it needs to be responsible for what happens to the weapon - this makes it possible to trace it back to him (or her). Then catching a stooge who bought your guns for you will eliminate the stooge or make him rat you out in exchange for a lesser charge.However: While, in and of itself, this can be alarming, the gangs in downtown Chicago and elsewhere in this country's urban ghettos must be using a different source. Thousands of transfers is so way less than the millions needed by criminals.Sure - let's stop the gun show loophole, but there's a much bigger problem in the cities.Edited by xongsmith, : sentencing

Hate to post this picture I found on facebook from my acquaintance, Lew Flagg, but it does need some answers.I would only note that in the areas of high gun death it's no wonder the people living there want to stop it. If it doesn't happen in your backyard, well, that's how life goes. Out of sight, out of mind, so to speak.This picture is rather damning for the knee-jerk liberals (I wonder how the FBI got their stats for this): Should note here that "more legally owned guns = less crime" is not at all supported. But....it looks bad.Edited by xongsmith, : code

Thank you, Dr. Adequate.
We now return you to your On Topic posts.Sorry, RAZD...got carried away. We regulate by having a nation-wide registration of all weapons and backgrounds checks on every weapon buyer. We would need to make a huge investment in the inner cities on education, healthcare, jobs and social recreations.

Dr. A writes He replied:

i know...he's an Idiot.

Percy asks: It was on facebook, a world of hit & run.
So no...it's gone into the mists of Mark Zuckerburg's archives.

RAZD writes: Indeed - why do they even allow for a defense of innocent because the defendant is deemed insane? If the defendant really did kill someone, then the defendant is already well within the INSANE circle on your Venn diagram, for those of you who are keeping score at home.But I love insane people. What would life be if every one was a grey milquetoast boring obedient specimen of our species? Just not the killing kind so much, okay?

To get back to the meat of guns used in crime in the inner city:People who own the guns should be liable for criminal & civil lawsuits and criminal MANDATORY jail time penalties for being the last legal owner of any gun used in a crime. You own it, you prevent it from getting out into the criminal world.Period.Guns should not be allowed to be manufactured and sold unless the paperwork for the legal buyer has been made, and so that a traceback can ALWAYS be made to the last legal buyer.

NoNukes offers: No.The liability of owning a gun should be SO HUGE! Insurance companies should rub their hands. You own a gun capable of mass murder in 10 seconds? - well, that will cost you. Republicans always talk about personal responsibility - let's make them put their checkbook where their mouth is.It is reprehensible that the obvious danger of OWNING a gun should go unpunished. Hit 'em in the pocket book. Even more, if they should ever be found to have owned a gun used in a crime, LOCK them up. Period. You buy a gun? You better take care of it.

AZPaul writes: NO SHIT!IF you own a gun and it gets out there, FUCK YOU. You do the time AND you go to court to face the parents of the dead. You are an accomplice just as much as the getaway driver.Simple. You get robbed of your weapons, you get JAIL, baby.

Taq tries: Would everyone here PLEASE, PLEASE stop using cars for any analogies here. They don't work, never have, and never will.Edited by xongsmith, : spelled t a q

AZPaul muses: Again, I proposed that the NRA be given power of background checking. Give them more power to enforce the law and they will gladly take on the responsibility. The ATF and the FBI have no credibility anymore in this country. I want to have something done. I am conceding territory I would rather not concede, BUT I want something done.