Where the first life came from has no bearing on the ToE at all.
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It does if life did not evolve from nothing.
No, you are completely wrong.
Do you disbelieve the Germ Theory of Disease because it doesn't explain where the first bacteria came from?
Do you disbelieve the Atomic Theory of Matter because it doesn't explain where the first atom came from?
Do you disbelieve the Theory of a Heliocentric Solar System because it doesn't explain how stars are formed?
ICANT,
you don't know nearly enough about science to make an informed opinion.
Therefore, you are making error upon error about very basic scientific things. You have an opinion, but it is based upon nothing but your religious prejudice and ignorance.
God could have poofed the first life into existence and it would not change the ToE one iota.
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It would if God made a full grown man and woman, full grown animals, birds and fishes.
If you believe that this happened, then you don't accept modern science.
You reject Biology, Geology, Paleontology, Physics, Cosmology, Genetics, etc.
Your links concerning "formas" didn't work.
The bit of a quote you provided mentions "forams", which are single-celled organisms. Their fossils are used to date geological layers.
But anyway, this is just another empty argument about supposed barriers to evolution that people like you claim exist but never show.
I noticed that you ignored my request for a definition of "kind".
What is the definition of "kind", ICANT? What is it?
I've asked that question to dozens of Creationists over the years, and not a single one of them have given me an answer.
Maybe you will be the first, but I don't think so.
Furthermore, when I asked you to explain the method used to determine what "kind" an organism is...:
For example, is my housecat and a Bengal Tiger the same "kind"?
Are homo Sapiens and Bonobo Chimpanzees the same "kind"?
You inadequately answered:
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Yes
No
How did you come to that conclusion? What method did you use?
Clearly, you reject the notion that genes are the basis for heredity.
Again, more evidence that you reject modern science.
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I plead guilty to ignorance of science.
If I wanted to remain that way I would not put up with the snide posts, uncalled for sarcasm, and downright bigotry on this forum.
[rant]If you agree that you are ignorant of science, then where do you get off making such bold claims about it?
For the last 150 years, there have been hundreds of thousands of scientists who have devoted their lives to the study of life on this planet. There's a reason not every Joe Schmoe can get a PhD in the sciences, ICANT. That's because it's bloody difficult. It takes enormous commitment and not a small amount of intelligence to make it through the years and years of work required. Scientists are low-paid relative to other professionals with similar levels of education and expertise like MD's, MBA's and attorneys, so none of them do it for the big bucks but because they like what they do.
Can't you imagine how you might come off as insulting when, even while admitting ignorance about science, you express incredulity about how anybody (which includes scientists in the field) could possibly believe the Theory of Evolution?
Don't cry to me about sarcasm and snide remarks regarding
your entirely willful ignorance if you are also going to criticise others who are far more informed than you are. THAT, my friend, is real arrogance.[/rant]
If you are ignorant of science, then why haven't you been asking questions so you can become less ignorant? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to try to learn what you don't know rather than defend your ignorance? There are professional scientists and educated laypeople on this board who could help you to correct your misconceptions and errors and lack of information regarding any number of scientific subjects. Just ask, and many of us would be happy to explain anything you have questions about.
But I predict that you won't. It's too dangerous for your faith, apparently, for you to become too educated about science.
You have to realize, ICANT, that we've seen many people just like you come and go from these boards. They have the same wrong ideas about science and evolution, and come with the same arrogant attitude of, "Gee, I don't know anything about Biology, and I don't believe in the ToE, and anybody who does believe in it must be pretty crazy!" We've even seen some who come here with lots of honest questions about science becasue they realize thay are ignorant and want to fix that. Most of the time, they get almost to the point of understanding but then run away right when they would have to admit that the ToE is valid.
It is truly a trajedy when people must suppress their intellects and avoid learning about the natural world to protect their clearly fragile faith.
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