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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
ringo
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Message 511 of 2932 (899723)
10-18-2022 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 495 by Kleinman
10-17-2022 2:11 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
Shaking in my boots, that's hilarious!
Go ahead and whistle in the dark.
Then start a topic about abiogenesis, like I suggested. Let's see what Kishony, Lenski and Desai have to say about that.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Message 512 of 2932 (899724)
10-18-2022 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by Kleinman
10-17-2022 2:22 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
ringo is just filling space at this time.
Kishony, Lenski and Desai. (And if that's too subtle for you, Kishony, Lenski and Desai.)
Kleinman writes:
If there is going to be any chance of an interesting discussion on this topic, it might come from Tanypteryx.
I agree, but he seems to be bored with your nonsense.
(And he's one of my biggest fans.)
Kleinman writes:
... you might find this video interesting on debating someone that is delusional.
I mostly debate people who are delusional.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 513 of 2932 (899725)
10-18-2022 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 498 by Dredge
10-17-2022 8:08 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Dredge writes:
from the Darwinist Space Cadet Manual, 13th edition, 2022, p.1
Get out of the nineteenth century.
quoting something he doesn't understand, Dredge writes:
In 2013 Denis Noble said, “all the central assumptions of the Modern Synthesis (often also called Neo-Darwinism) have been disproved. Moreover, they have been disproved in ways that raise the tantalizing prospect of a totally new synthesis” (Noble, 2013).
Do you know what "synthesis" means? Hint: it doesn't mean "down the drain".
And it certainly doesn't mean "replaced by creationism".

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 514 of 2932 (899726)
10-18-2022 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Dredge
10-17-2022 9:16 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
the idiot, Dredge writes:
Abiogenesis by natural means represents an obvious scientific impossibility.
Only to somebody who is totally ignorant of chemistry.
But the topic here is Kleinman's ignorance of biology. If you want to make stupid statements about abiogenesis, start a topic about abiogenesis.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 515 of 2932 (899727)
10-18-2022 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 502 by Dredge
10-17-2022 9:29 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Dredge writes:
"Claiming to be wise, they became fools..."
But you admit to being a fool.
Which is it? Are you an idiot or a liar? Or both?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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Kleinman
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Message 516 of 2932 (899729)
10-18-2022 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 512 by ringo
10-18-2022 12:38 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
If there is going to be any chance of an interesting discussion on this topic, it might come from Tanypteryx.
ringo:
I agree, but he seems to be bored with your nonsense.

(And he's one of my biggest fans.)

More likely Tany can't explain his claim about ERVs. But if Tany quits this discussion, it will be for the same reason that Taq quit and that wasn't boredom.
And Tany must like the way the C- team plays if he is a fan of yours. So post away and fill space until Tany posts something interesting about ERVs which I highly doubt.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 517 of 2932 (899731)
10-18-2022 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 516 by Kleinman
10-18-2022 1:07 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
But if Tany quits this discussion, it will be for the same reason that Taq quit and that wasn't boredom.
Well, your wishful thinking won't get rid of me. You can run but you can't hide.
Phat writes:
And Tany must like the way the C- team plays if he is a fan of yours.
Nice sports analogy. I may not be in the major leagues but youre playing tee-ball.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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Kleinman
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Message 518 of 2932 (899732)
10-18-2022 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 517 by ringo
10-18-2022 1:52 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
But if Tany quits this discussion, it will be for the same reason that Taq quit and that wasn't boredom.
ringo:
Well, your wishful thinking won't get rid of me. You can run but you can't hide.

I'm not trying to get rid of you ringo. I'm just waiting for you to say something interesting.
Phat didn't write:
And Tany must like the way the C- team plays if he is a fan of yours.
ringo:
Nice sports analogy. I may not be in the major leagues but youre playing tee-ball.

Why not try and tee something interesting up for us? And you aren't in any league, you are a spectator in the peanut gallery. That's your cue to fill space.

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Dredge
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Message 519 of 2932 (899738)
10-18-2022 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by Kleinman
10-17-2022 10:37 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
And then God gives me the solutions to complex problems in dreams. It is really incredible.
Fascinating.

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Dredge
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Message 520 of 2932 (899739)
10-18-2022 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by Kleinman
10-17-2022 10:37 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
Of course, the zealots on this forum aren't enjoying it.
That's how it goes in cult ... anything or anyone that doesn't conform to their doctrines is attacked and banished to the outer darkness. They're just doing what any good and loyal Darwinists does.

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ringo
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Message 521 of 2932 (899741)
10-18-2022 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 518 by Kleinman
10-18-2022 2:18 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
I'm just waiting for you to say something interesting.
While you're waiting, you could answer some of your unanswered posts. I count about ten different topics that you've missed answering.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
From: United States
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Message 522 of 2932 (899742)
10-18-2022 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 521 by ringo
10-18-2022 9:50 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
I'm just waiting for you to say something interesting.
ringo:
While you're waiting, you could answer some of your unanswered posts. I count about ten different topics that you've missed answering.

Jame Tour does a much better job describing why abiogenesis is not possible. He teaches a course on it. Here is a short summary video he made on the subject.

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Message 523 of 2932 (899745)
10-18-2022 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 522 by Kleinman
10-18-2022 10:33 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Arvin Ash does a excellent job describing why abiogenesis is the probable venue for life.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 524 of 2932 (899746)
10-18-2022 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 514 by ringo
10-18-2022 12:47 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
[qs=Only to somebody who is totally ignorant of chemistry.[/qs] When confronted by the scientific impossibility of abiogenesis, atheists panick and slip into a state clinically delusional, then find a dark room and collapse into a fetal position until the fear and madness subside.

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Dredge
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Message 525 of 2932 (899747)
10-18-2022 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 514 by ringo
10-18-2022 12:47 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
ringo writes:
Only to somebody who is totally ignorant of chemistry.
When confronted by the scientific impossibility of abiogenesis, atheists panick and slip into a state clinically delusional, then find a dark room and collapse into a fetal position until the fear and madness subside.

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