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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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No, I am not mad at god you idiot. I have no belief in a god, it is merely a swear word. Go ahead and read into it what you want, you would be wrong. I have never had a belief in a god, except when I was a child and believed in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny too. I believed in them the exact same way and remember when I thought adults were idiots for still believing in a god.
So go mind you own damn business. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Theogruffidic writes: Perhaps you are worried that GDR might persuade Percy to become more of a Theist. That would certainly be worrisome if any of the peanut gallery defected from your global marxist oligarchy. So go mind you own damn business.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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I don't care what Percy's beliefs are. I don't care what my wife's beliefs are(she is a christian). They are allowed to believe what they want. I have no desire to have them have the same belief set as I do. That would be amazingly stupid as we have vastly different life experiences. I would never ask or demand of my wife to tell me what her religious beliefs are. If that is something she wants to share, then she shares. Belief sets are some of the most personal things people have and yes it is no ones damn business. The reason your beliefs and GDR's beliefs are our business is because both of you made it our business by posting about your beliefs.
It is amazing how clueless and idiotic you are. After 20 years you have learned nothing. Not even what this forum is about. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Perhaps you are worried that GDR might persuade Percy to become more of a Theist. Why would anybody worry about that?
That would certainly be worrisome if any of the peanut gallery defected from your global marxist oligarchy. There isn't any "global marxist oligarchy".Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This forum is about debate and discussion. It is about free speech. And at its root it is about evolution and creationism. God is an integral part of that discussion. The fact that you dont like to hear "preaching" in no way concerns me. If you dont like a topic, ignore it rather than inserting your mouth into it and demanding that a moderator silence me. For the record...yes, you have every right to tell me to mind my own damn business when it pertains to you personally. You have every right to dig up dirt on Candace Owens and protect Representative Ocasio Cortez. Its called freedom of speech. Our only guideline in our free speech is not to hate or slander others. In our forum, we apply that primarily to our personal members. Public figures such as Trump, Biden and Cortez (and Owens) are expected to be criticized a bit more by the public than are EvC Forum members.
So yes, I DO know what this forum is about. *points to rock and motions Theodoric to go back under it* The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
nwr writes: I knew that that comment would stir something up! There isn't any "global marxist oligarchy". Lest we stray off topic too much, lets steer back to GDR's original intent concerning choosing a faith. Keep in mind that choosing a faith is to a lesser degree choosing a world view and an ideology. Though its hard, it might be better to seperate politics from religion in this definition. I just finished my latest book, The War On The West and will discuss both Faith and Politics in my Book Nook topic.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Please point out when I requested a moderator to silence you? That does not sound like something I would do, but maybe I have.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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GDR writes: You are happy to attack my beliefs and the beliefs of others, but you don't have the courage to tell us what it is you believe and why. I am only questioning one of your beliefs, the one that holds that there is evidence for what you believe. I don't see how what I believe spiritually is relevant. I never, ever think about these beliefs unless I'm in a conversation like this, and then I pull them out and examine them and familiarize myself with them again and find them interesting and unusual. They don't guide my life in any way. I would think it silly to tell them to anyone unless they said they wanted to know, as you did. They aren't something I would ever promote or defend. A more accurate statement of my beliefs is that there is a purpose to the universe, but we don't know what that purpose is, and we don't know if we have any role in it or are just along for the ride. And I have one nod to outside influences: God looks like the image on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. I do have evidence for this belief, since a man of great talent, integrity and esteem painted it, and he wouldn't just make it up. Ah, the fallacy of appeal to authority, gotta love it. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Theodoric writes: Please point out when I requested a moderator to silence you? That does not sound like something I would do, but maybe I have. I can see any number of people making such a request but with the probable motivation of something like "protective custody." --Percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
I have complained about people and I have demanded people stay on topic and follow forum rules, but request a poster to be silenced. That is a mighty strong accusation.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Perhaps I conflated your responses collectiively. You *did* always send me back under my rock but I laughed and said the same thing to you. No harm no foul.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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No. Bullshit. There is harm, there is a foul. You publicly, on this forum, accused me of asking Admin to silence you. You accused me of dishonesty. That is a lie. You admit it is a lie. There are few things in life I truly own. My honor, integrity, and honesty are some of them. You have impugned and attacked that.
If you can not make valid, logical, and non-fallacious arguments, I am going to call you and anyone else on that. If you think that is an attack, that is your problem. If you don't want to get called out on your racist, christian nationalist, dominionist bullshit, then don't post it. But do not ever accuse me of trying to get admin to silence you. If you make an accusation you damn well better have the receipts. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
You are such a whiner and are a poster child forr the victim mentality of the Liberal progressives. I doubt whether you ever actually read any of the books whose authors you call racist. The modus operendi of your political platform is to gather together all of the people who self identify as oppressed and aim your wrath at conservatives due to their privilege which you whine about since you claim it is unearned. Your rock awaits.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Just sayin' the same old crap that I'm talking about. Could you EVER get the point? ringo writes:
Could it be that you dont own the house that the puppy is trying to mark as his territory? Just sayin Maybe you don't realize how frustrating it is dealing with the same old crap from you guys year after year. It's like trying to house-train a puppy - but the puppy never learns. It has NOTHING to do with "who owns the house".Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
It has to do with what is being taught in the house. This puppy does not want masters who know nothing about what they are trying to train and teach.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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