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Theodoric
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Message 1803 of 3694 (905132)
01-18-2023 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1802 by Phat
01-18-2023 11:01 PM


Re: Theo: Belief Is Nobodies Damn Business
I don't care what Percy's beliefs are. I don't care what my wife's beliefs are(she is a christian). They are allowed to believe what they want. I have no desire to have them have the same belief set as I do. That would be amazingly stupid as we have vastly different life experiences. I would never ask or demand of my wife to tell me what her religious beliefs are. If that is something she wants to share, then she shares. Belief sets are some of the most personal things people have and yes it is no ones damn business. The reason your beliefs and GDR's beliefs are our business is because both of you made it our business by posting about your beliefs.
It is amazing how clueless and idiotic you are. After 20 years you have learned nothing. Not even what this forum is about.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1807 of 3694 (905142)
01-19-2023 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1805 by Phat
01-18-2023 11:42 PM


Re: Theo: Belief Is Nobodies Damn Business
Please point out when I requested a moderator to silence you? That does not sound like something I would do, but maybe I have.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1810 of 3694 (905147)
01-19-2023 9:24 AM
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01-19-2023 9:06 AM


Re: Theo: Belief Is Nobodies Damn Business
I have complained about people and I have demanded people stay on topic and follow forum rules, but request a poster to be silenced. That is a mighty strong accusation.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1812 of 3694 (905151)
01-19-2023 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1811 by Phat
01-19-2023 9:33 AM


There is harm, there is foul
No. Bullshit. There is harm, there is a foul. You publicly, on this forum, accused me of asking Admin to silence you. You accused me of dishonesty. That is a lie. You admit it is a lie. There are few things in life I truly own. My honor, integrity, and honesty are some of them. You have impugned and attacked that.
If you can not make valid, logical, and non-fallacious arguments, I am going to call you and anyone else on that. If you think that is an attack, that is your problem. If you don't want to get called out on your racist, christian nationalist, dominionist bullshit, then don't post it. But do not ever accuse me of trying to get admin to silence you.
If you make an accusation you damn well better have the receipts.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1821 of 3694 (905167)
01-19-2023 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1813 by Phat
01-19-2023 10:26 AM


Re: There is harm, there is foul
So when a RWNJ like you lies about someone and makes unevidenced accusations, us "liberals" should just accept and meekly carry on?
Please point out my whining or are you lying again? I have made it very clear that I am extremely privileged You want to see unprivileged? Let me introduce you to some cousins. How about young adults with AIDS that we support in South Africa? Most of them have made or are making a good life. Even without privilege and without whining. Those without privilege know that whining will do no good. They leave the whining to the privileged.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1822 of 3694 (905168)
01-19-2023 11:22 AM
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01-19-2023 10:26 AM


Re: There is harm, there is foul
I do not need to read a book to know what it's intent and stance is. You yourself posted racist excerpts that you seemed to think validated the book.
Chapter One:
There is an obvious, observable truth about people in the West. Historically the citizens of Europe and their offspring societies in the Americas and Australasia have been white. (...)In the war on the West, white people are one of the first subjects of attack. A fact that has been steadily normalized and made into the only acceptable form of racism in the societies in which it happens. To demonize the West, it appears to be necessary first to demonize the people who still make up the racial majority in the West.
Chapter One:
...one of the distinguishing marks of CRT was that its assertions were based not on evidence, as it might previously been understood, but essentially on interpretations and attitudes. (...)the rules of CRT had no need for normal standards of evidence. If a person's "lived experience" could be attested to, then the question of "evidence" or "data" had to find a place further back in the queue, if at all.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1826 of 3694 (905209)
01-19-2023 3:52 PM
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01-19-2023 3:45 PM


Re: There is harm, there is foul
You accused me personally of being a whiner. Don't act like everything is good. You made personal attacks. You cannot just pretend and both sides this.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1830 of 3694 (905215)
01-19-2023 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1827 by Phat
01-19-2023 3:55 PM


Re: There is harm, there is foul
Again you know nothing. I am not the child of educated elitists. Being educated does not make one an elitist.
I am not burning anything down. I am working to raise the house up and make the foundation stronger.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1831 of 3694 (905216)
01-19-2023 4:16 PM
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01-19-2023 3:58 PM


Re: There is harm, there is foul
I don't want shit from you. I want you to realize that your words have consequences and claiming there is no foul, or even apologizing does not fix it.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1835 of 3694 (905225)
01-19-2023 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1833 by Percy
01-19-2023 5:43 PM


Re: I Again Think GDR has Given Up On This Thread
Any god, being, whatever, that demands or wants to be worshipped does not deserve to be even thought about. Never mind treated with any kind if respect.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1843 of 3694 (905309)
01-22-2023 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1842 by Percy
01-22-2023 3:06 PM


Re: Meaning and Purpose
CS Lewis was a bit of a hack. Not sure why people think that his children's stories and apologetics are so great.
CS Lewis's literary legacy: 'dodgy and unpleasant' or 'exceptionally good'? | CS Lewis | The Guardian

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1869 of 3694 (905452)
01-26-2023 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1868 by nwr
01-26-2023 7:18 PM


Re: The Future IS Important Enough
And all studies support that it does nothing.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1872 of 3694 (905456)
01-27-2023 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1870 by Phat
01-27-2023 12:50 AM


Re: What's Important enough?
Look into yourself. You do this all the time. This is not an attack, merely pointing it out. Take it for what it is worth.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1896 of 3694 (905511)
01-28-2023 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1893 by Tanypteryx
01-28-2023 7:07 PM


Re: What's Important enough?
and not playing baseball is still not a sport.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1897 of 3694 (905512)
01-28-2023 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1894 by GDR
01-28-2023 7:18 PM


Re: What's Important enough?
Wash, rinse, repeat.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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