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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Why should I do your homework for you? So post the links.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
I call them "pork sweepings". Made of cast-offs like any sausage. Disclaimer: Coming from a German background, I practically live on sausage... and I'm still alive. My brother used to say we couldn't afford real Spam; we only got artificial Spam.
AZPaul3 writes:
Apparently it's unusually popular in Hawaii: 9 Reasons Why Spam Became Hawaii’s Most Beloved Food And it's been on-and-off popular in world society since Hormel dropped its first can. And now, back to Kishony, Lenski and Desai. Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Now you're just being dishonest. You can't get along in today's world without using Google and now you expect us to believe that you think Google returns fake links?
It's not my homework, they are your imaginary links. Kleinman writes:
Kleinman is going to explain to us why he thinks A → B and A → C are the same as B → C. Oh boy, ringo is going to give the physical and mathematical explanations for the Kishony, Lenski, and Desai experiments!Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
And WE are waiting for YOU to explain how sexual replicators figure into asexual reproduction. We are waiting for you to explain to us how new alleles are created in sexual replicators.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
The DNA evidence (both empirical AND experimental, at the same time, no less) shows that UCD not only IS possible but also IS. the physics, mathematics, and experimental and empirical evidence show that UCD is impossible,Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
Ooh! Ooh! One of my cousins was married to a guy whose father was a General in the German army during WW2; he was a division commander, a recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross, who was fired for refusing to put the Hitler Youth in the front line. One of them (who I consider my friend) was a 13-year-old Panzerfaust operator in the German army at the end of WW2.... Kishony, Lenski, Desai. Amen.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
They're very real and any fool can find them - except you. You're just flailing.
They are your imaginary links and you won't post them because they don't exist. Kleinman writes:
Clearly not.
Descent with modification works the same way for both replicators. Kleinman writes:
He does. And so does everybody else who has looked at it honestly.
ringo writes:
ringo should know. The DNA evidence (both empirical AND experimental, at the same time, no less) shows that UCD not only IS possible but also IS. Kleinman writes:
There is no lack of transitional fossils.
The lack of transitional fossils ... Kleinman writes:
That has nothing to do with transitional fossils. The plethora of transitional fossils is enough evidence in itself to demonstrate UCD. So is the DNA evidence. So is the nested hierarchy based on gross anatomy.
... and his failure to explain how drug resistance evolve and why cancer treatments fail... Kleinman writes:
Why don't you look them up yourself? Any schoolboy can.
Why don't you post one of your imaginary links? Kleinman writes:
A German General whom I never met? Maybe not. But to become a General, he must have been smart enough to accept evolution. You obviously didn't learn anything from him.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
You're flailing because you refuse to look at those links. Yeah, right, I'm flailing because you don't post any links that explain...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
You're flailing because you refuse to look at links that clearly do exist - millions of them. ingo thinks I'm flailing because I won't look at his imaginary links. To stop flailing, you need to look at those links an d refute them.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
He doesn't need them because he already knows why cancer treatments fail, as you admit. He may have learned why cancer treatments fail from some of the very links that you claim do not exist. Give your imaginary links, millions of them, to AZPaul3 so he knows why cancer treatments fail. You're not only willfully ignorant; you're also willfully blind. I was going to say you're like an infant playing peekaboo - if he can't see it, it isn't there - but at least the infant grows out of it. You likely never will.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
That would confirm my point. You do realize you are going to receive a demanded math assignment for this observation, right? And I'll give him HIS assignment right back: A → B and so on.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kleinman writes:
But you ARE wrong about that. Nobody thinks that. That is NOT what evolution concludes. Vimesey writes:
Not reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals wrong. Are you capable of being wrong ? Evolution concludes that reptiles and birds evolved from a common ancestor. They are cousins with the same grandparents. Fish and mammals evolved from a different common ancestor. They are also cousins with a different set of grandparents. And the two sets of grandparents are also cousins with their own common grandparents. Universal common descent is demonstrated by the nested hierarchy (derived from gross anatomy) and confirmed by DNA. That's the reality. There's no getting around it. You can't trump reality with mathematics.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
That's a lie. Drug resistant infections and failed cancer treatments are the reality. And ringo doesn't have a single link which explains how this happens... There are plenty of links. Kleinman is afraid to look at them because he knows there is NOTHING on the Internet that supports his nonsense. He supports himself. Nobody else does.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Yes, you may be having hallucinations. That would explain your blindness to reality. ringo writes:
This cowpoke smokes way too much locoweed. He's having hallucinations. There are plenty of links. Kleinman is afraid to look at them because he knows there is NOTHING on the Internet that supports his nonsense. He supports himself. Nobody else does.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
That's the problem with mental illness. It often makes the "sufferer" feel better . If you have a sore foot, you go to the doctor to make it feel better - but if you're already euphoric, why would you? I've recommended to him that he go see Psych, but he's too far gone to realize that he should. Kleinman is already feeling pretty good about himself, at least on the surface. Deep down, there may be a lot of turmoil that will cause him to crash eventually.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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