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Taq
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Message 1741 of 2932 (901892)
11-15-2022 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1740 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 1:29 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman writes:
You've really done quite enough with Covid. We don't need experts on viruses like you. You have done enough damage.
Your inability to address the evidence is noted.

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Kleinman
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Message 1742 of 2932 (901893)
11-15-2022 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1739 by Tanypteryx
11-15-2022 1:29 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
Too bad he doesn't know how descent with modification and recombination works.
Tanypteryx:
Too bad you have shown us you don't know how descent with modification and recombination works. You still think Gypsies create the fossils and you have no clue how retroviruses work.

Tany will now explain the Kishony and Lenski experiments. That's a joke. We all know that all Tany knows how to do is chase bugs.

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Kleinman
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Message 1743 of 2932 (901894)
11-15-2022 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1741 by Taq
11-15-2022 1:31 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
You've really done quite enough with Covid. We don't need experts on viruses like you. You have done enough damage.
Taq:
Your inability to address the evidence is noted.

Your evidence is this claim that hundreds of thousands of viruses infect a germ cell line and not one of them causes disease. And thank you so much for your contribution to Covid. If it weren't for you, millions would have died. Wait, they did die. Good job Taq.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1744 of 2932 (901895)
11-15-2022 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1742 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 1:33 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Still flailing rather than addressing the evidence. Taq has demonstrated that you are nothing but a Bullshit Peddler. Your whole argument comes down to ...really? You are so cute pretending that you understand science.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Taq
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Message 1745 of 2932 (901896)
11-15-2022 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1743 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 1:38 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman writes:
Your evidence is this claim that hundreds of thousands of viruses infect a germ cell line and not one of them causes disease.
Which of the 200,000 retroviral insertions in your genome is causing disease?
And thank you so much for your contribution to Covid. If it weren't for you, millions would have died. Wait, they did die. Good job Taq.
Your desperation to change the subject is noted.

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Dredge
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Message 1746 of 2932 (901897)
11-15-2022 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1731 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 1:08 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman writes:
ringo doesn't need proof, ringo has science, taught to him by Tany the bug chaser, master of all science.
"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
Matthew 15:14

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Taq
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Message 1747 of 2932 (901898)
11-15-2022 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1746 by Dredge
11-15-2022 1:50 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Dredge writes:
"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."

Matthew 15:14
That's a perfect description of creationists going to creationist sites for information on ERV's. The webpage you cited tried to claim that there are less than a dozen ERV's that are shared by humans and chimps. The facts are very different. More than 99% of the 200,000 ERV's in the human genome are shared with chimps.
Blind leading the blind indeed.

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Dredge
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Message 1748 of 2932 (901900)
11-15-2022 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1747 by Taq
11-15-2022 1:55 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I did point out that that article was eleven years old ...

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1749 of 2932 (901903)
11-15-2022 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1748 by Dredge
11-15-2022 2:01 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Sludge writes:
I did point out that that article was eleven years old ...
11 year old bullshit is still just bullshit. Still not a shred of evidence refuting the pattern of ERVs in the genomes of sexually reproducing species. Posting fraudulent claims is not supporting evidence, it just demonstrates YOUR dishonesty.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 1750 of 2932 (901904)
11-15-2022 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1745 by Taq
11-15-2022 1:50 PM


Dishonest debating by kleiner
The Gish gallop continues

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1751 of 2932 (901905)
11-15-2022 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1748 by Dredge
11-15-2022 2:01 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Dredge writes:
I did point out that that article was eleven years old ...
The chimp genome paper is 17 years old. Six years before McLatchie tried to claim that there are less than a dozen ERV's shared by humans and chimps there was a chimp genome paper that demonstrated how chimps and humans share over 99% of the 200,000 ERVs found in the human genome.

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Message 1752 of 2932 (901908)
11-15-2022 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1751 by Taq
11-15-2022 2:50 PM


Christian liars
Another liar for Jesus

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Kleinman
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Message 1753 of 2932 (901909)
11-15-2022 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1744 by Tanypteryx
11-15-2022 1:41 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Tanypteryx:
Still flailing rather than addressing the evidence. Taq has demonstrated that you are nothing but a Bullshit Peddler. Your whole argument comes down to ...really? You are so cute pretending that you understand science.
The great bug chaser and master of all things scientific has evidence that bugs turn into humans. Such a wise bug chaser he is.

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Kleinman
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Message 1754 of 2932 (901910)
11-15-2022 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1745 by Taq
11-15-2022 1:50 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
Your evidence is this claim that hundreds of thousands of viruses infect a germ cell line and not one of them causes disease.
Taq:
Which of the 200,000 retroviral insertions in your genome is causing disease?

They don't cause disease because they aren't retroviruses.
Kleinman:
And thank you so much for your contribution to Covid. If it weren't for you, millions would have died. Wait, they did die. Good job Taq.
Taq:
Your desperation to change the subject is noted.

As an expert in viruses, I think you deserve the credit. Atta boy Taq.

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Kleinman
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Message 1755 of 2932 (901911)
11-15-2022 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1746 by Dredge
11-15-2022 1:50 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman:
ringo doesn't need proof, ringo has science, taught to him by Tany the bug chaser, master of all science.
Dredge:
"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."

Matthew 15:14

They think they aren't blind. They want everyone in a pit.

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