Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."

Kleinman:

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It's better than any trick you have because these are real cases.

ringo:

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But it's still only one trick. Kishony, Lenski, Desai.

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That's all you need to understand biological evolution, a few basic real examples. Now tell us about all your imaginary examples.

Sure. And all you need to practice medicine is a handfull of pills.

AZPaul3:

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Vanity press, paid submissions. Note the citations are all by Kleinman himself.
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It has all been judged bogus by his peers.
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Go home now, citizens. No real math or science to see here.

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Then there is nothing to worry about, your dreams are safe, or are they? I hope you like it dry, real dry.

Kleinman:

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That's all you need to understand biological evolution, a few basic real examples.

ringo:

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Sure. And all you need to practice medicine is a handfull of pills.

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And poor ringo doesn't understand either.

And yet you have no substantive answer to my posts.

Delusion of grandeur, everyone can see your errors.

I thought you cured that????

Kleinman:

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And poor ringo doesn't understand either.

ringo:

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And yet you have no substantive answer to my posts.

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If you want to believe that 200k retrovirus infections don't do any harm to a germline, you can believe that. Taq's only example is threatening the existence of koalas and it is only a single infection. It is affecting their immune system. And if you don't know why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive mutation for the Kishony and Lenski experiments, you can be ignorant of that fact as well. Call that non-substantive if you think it is so. Enjoy your dreams while they last.

Kleinman:

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No one else can explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive mutation, especially a nitwit like you.

Tanypteryx:

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Delusion of grandeur, everyone can see your errors.

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Here comes the bug chase with his explanation. Or maybe Taq will explain a real example of biological evolution instead of his imaginary examples.

Kleinman:

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Good job bug chaser, you have killed a lot of people with drug resistant infections, you moron.

Tanypteryx:

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I thought you cured that????

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Virologists can fabricate new diseases faster than you can find solutions, you dummy.

Already did. The Desai experiment where sexual reproduction alleviated clonal interference.

And you STILL have no substantive response.

Kleinman:

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Or maybe Taq will explain a real example of biological evolution instead of his imaginary examples.

Taq:

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Already did. The Desai experiment where sexual reproduction alleviated clonal interference.

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You are a liar. You never did the mathematics of any real experiment. You make up populations with imaginary alleles and imaginary selection conditions that never change. You don't do real examples because they don't fit with your stupid narrative. Keep telling us about 200k retrovirus infections of a germline that don't do anything while posting a link to a retroviral infection in koalas that impairs their immune system and may well drive the koalas to extinction. All they need is 199,999 more infections. Maybe you can engineer a virus that will kill more than Covid. You are such a smart virologist.

The mathematics are in the paper. Are you denying the results published in the paper?

Kleinman:

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If you want to believe that 200k retrovirus infections don't do any harm to a germline, you can believe that.

ringo:

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And you STILL have no substantive response.

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Nothing that an amateur like you would understand. You have no idea what a retroviral infection does to a germline.