Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."

Theodoric:

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So you mean lacking in comprehension? The word dull does not even fit there.

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If you were sharp, you wouldn't be so sluggish.

Theodoric:

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Well it seems your grasp of language is as equally lacking as your grasp of math, evolution and familial relationships.

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If you could describe how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail, you wouldn't be so dull.

Kleinman:

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Try attributing the quote correctly, silly tenderfoot.

ringo:

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My apologies to vimesey. I think he, and everybody else, recognizes an honest mistake, as opposed to the deliberate stupidity that you revel in.

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You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail, and neither can vimesey or biologists.
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Kleinman:

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Theodoric is slow of understanding.

ringo:

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There's nothing wrong with taking your time to understand something. You should try it.

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Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?

Kleinman:

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Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?

Phat:

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Nobody cares. You have already been shut down in your unpublished papers. You have a soapbox here, but it is little more than an echo chamber. Some day, you will be in a home for the senile, walking about and muttering to everybody
how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. And you will claim that they are the senile ones!

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They should care because if they could explain how drug resistance evolves or why cancer treatments fail would show that they have some understanding of biological evolution. You won't give that explanation, Theodoric won't give that explanation, and biologists don't give that explanation. And many people suffer from drug resistant infections and failed cancer treatments because of the that lack of biologists giving the correct explanation.

Kleinman:

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You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail....

ringo:

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Not to you, no.

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Not to anyone, tenderfoot.

Kleinman:

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Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?

ringo:

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If he has taken the time to learn it in the past or if he takes time to learn it in the future, I'm sure he can. I'm also sure he will not be distracted by any of your nonsense. And I am sure he knows the difference between his grandparents and his cousins.

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Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does, nothing. And the same applies to biologists.

Kleinman:

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Not to anyone, tenderfoot.

ringo:

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To anyone but you.

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You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

Kleinman:

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Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does...

ringo:

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He probably knows more than I do. But the advantage we both have is that we are capable of learning. You are not.

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You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.

Kleinman:

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You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

ringo:

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You don't understand the explanation because you don't understand the simplest principles.

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The tenderfoot thinks he understands the simplest principles, yet he can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

Kleinman:

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You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.

ringo:

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So, indoctrination is yet another thing you don't understand.
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Come back when you can explain the difference between grandparents and cousins. Maybe then somebody will take you seriously.

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I understand what indoctrination is. You have been brainwashed. And I'm not going away because you make some silly accusation. Neither you nor biologists have correctly explained how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

Kleinman:

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I understand what indoctrination is.

ringo:

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You really don't. There's no indoctrination in knowing the difference between grandparents and cousins. If you knew the difference, you wouldn't be afraid to explain it.

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You are indoctrinated and you are silly.

Kleinman:

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You are indoctrinated and you are silly.

ringo:

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Nobody cares about your opinion. Show us that you know something.

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Why? You have already shown that your indoctrination overcomes your ability to learn.

Kleinman:

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You have already shown that your indoctrination overcomes your ability to learn.

ringo:

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Nobody thinks that but you.

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Then explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski experiments.

Kleinman:

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Then explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski experiments.

ringo:

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As I have said before, that's way over your head.

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You must have missed these links:
For the Kishony experiment:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for the Lenski experiment:
Fixation and Adaptation in the Lenski E. coli Long Term Evolution Experiment
See how eaxy it is to post those links, tenderfoot.

Kleinman:

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You must have missed these links:

ringo:

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Your links are garbage. Kishony doesn't agree with you. Lenski doesn't agree with you.

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The peer reviewers wouldn't agree with you, tenderfoot. And where did you read that Kishony and Lenski don't agree with me? Why don't you post those links or are they just something from your imagination like your other claimed links? Your delusions are exposed.

Kleinman:

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For the Kishony experiment:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for the Lenski experiment:
Fixation and Adaptation in the Lenski E. coli Long Term Evolution Experiment

AZPaul3:

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CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

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Caution, AZPaul3 is a layman who knows nothing about evolution, mathematics, or physics. He is a warmonger who gets upset when his delusional bubble is burst.

Kleinman:

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The peer reviewers wouldn't agree with you, tenderfoot.

ringo:

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There was no peer review.

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You are going off half-cocked, tenderfoot.

Kleinman:

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And where did you read that Kishony and Lenski don't agree with me?

ringo:

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You said it yourself.

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Silly tenderfoot, post that quote, you won't.

Kleinman:

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Your delusions are exposed.

ringo:

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Only in your deluded mind.

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You are the confused tenderfoot telling us you are related to fecal bacteria. You have been brainwashed.

Kleinman:

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And where did you read that Kishony and Lenski don't agree with me?

ringo:

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You said it yourself.

Kleinman:

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Silly tenderfoot, post that quote, you won't

ringo:

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I asked you to show where Kishony and Lenski (and Desai, oh my!) agreed with your (mis)interpretation of their experiments. Did you not admit that they never agreed with you? If they did agree with you, go ahead and show us now.

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Silly tenderfoot. Kishony and Lenski know of my papers but they have never commented on them publicly. They have also never correctly explained how their experiments work. It is my papers that explain how their experiments work. Even dwise3 and Taq know my papers are correct.

Kleinman:

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You are the confused tenderfoot telling us you are related to fecal bacteria.

ringo:

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We all are, including you.

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Don't include me in your folly. You have to go off in your delusions on your own. You are such a sad tenderfoot.