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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
Kleinman
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Message 2806 of 2932 (905793)
02-03-2023 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2805 by Theodoric
02-03-2023 5:04 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Theodoric:
Well it seems your grasp of language is as equally lacking as your grasp of math, evolution and familial relationships.
If you could describe how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail, you wouldn't be so dull.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2807 of 2932 (905826)
02-04-2023 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 2799 by Kleinman
02-03-2023 1:12 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Try attributing the quote correctly, silly tenderfoot.
My apologies to vimesey. I think he, and everybody else, recognizes an honest mistake, as opposed to the deliberate stupidity that you revel in.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 2808 of 2932 (905828)
02-04-2023 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 2800 by Kleinman
02-03-2023 1:12 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Theodoric is slow of understanding.
There's nothing wrong with taking your time to understand something. You should try it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2809 of 2932 (905849)
02-04-2023 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2807 by ringo
02-04-2023 11:08 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
Try attributing the quote correctly, silly tenderfoot.
ringo:
My apologies to vimesey. I think he, and everybody else, recognizes an honest mistake, as opposed to the deliberate stupidity that you revel in.

You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail, and neither can vimesey or biologists.
Message 2808
Kleinman:
Theodoric is slow of understanding.
ringo:
There's nothing wrong with taking your time to understand something. You should try it.

Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?

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Phat
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Message 2810 of 2932 (905850)
02-04-2023 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 2809 by Kleinman
02-04-2023 12:17 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
Nobody cares. You have already been shut down in your unpublished papers. You have a soapbox here, but it is little more than an echo chamber. Some day, you will be in a home for the senile, walking about and muttering to everybody
how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. And you will claim that they are the senile ones!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2811 of 2932 (905853)
02-04-2023 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 2810 by Phat
02-04-2023 12:21 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
Phat:
Nobody cares. You have already been shut down in your unpublished papers. You have a soapbox here, but it is little more than an echo chamber. Some day, you will be in a home for the senile, walking about and muttering to everybody
how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. And you will claim that they are the senile ones!

They should care because if they could explain how drug resistance evolves or why cancer treatments fail would show that they have some understanding of biological evolution. You won't give that explanation, Theodoric won't give that explanation, and biologists don't give that explanation. And many people suffer from drug resistant infections and failed cancer treatments because of the that lack of biologists giving the correct explanation.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2812 of 2932 (905864)
02-04-2023 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2809 by Kleinman
02-04-2023 12:17 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail....
Not to you, no. You aren't even capable of understanding the difference between grandparents amd cousins.
Kleinman writes:
Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
If he has taken the time to learn it in the past or if he takes time to learn it in the future, I'm sure he can. I'm also sure he will not be distracted by any of your nonsense. And I am sure he knows the difference between his grandparents and his cousins.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2813 of 2932 (905865)
02-04-2023 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 2812 by ringo
02-04-2023 1:06 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail....
ringo:
Not to you, no.

Not to anyone, tenderfoot.
Kleinman:
Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
ringo:
If he has taken the time to learn it in the past or if he takes time to learn it in the future, I'm sure he can. I'm also sure he will not be distracted by any of your nonsense. And I am sure he knows the difference between his grandparents and his cousins.

Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does, nothing. And the same applies to biologists.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2814 of 2932 (905927)
02-05-2023 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2813 by Kleinman
02-04-2023 1:21 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Not to anyone, tenderfoot.
To anyone but you.
Kleinman writes:
Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does...
He probably knows more than I do. But the advantage we both have is that we are capable of learning. You are not.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2815 of 2932 (905940)
02-05-2023 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 2814 by ringo
02-05-2023 1:09 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
Not to anyone, tenderfoot.
ringo:
To anyone but you.

You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Kleinman:
Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does...
ringo:
He probably knows more than I do. But the advantage we both have is that we are capable of learning. You are not.

You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2816 of 2932 (905942)
02-05-2023 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2815 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 2:31 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
You don't understand the explanation because you don't understand the simplest principles.
Kleinman writes:
You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.
So, indoctrination is yet another thing you don't understand.
Come back when you can explain the difference between grandparents and cousins. Maybe then somebody will take you seriously.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2817 of 2932 (905948)
02-05-2023 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2816 by ringo
02-05-2023 2:41 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
ringo:
You don't understand the explanation because you don't understand the simplest principles.

The tenderfoot thinks he understands the simplest principles, yet he can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Kleinman:
You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.
ringo:
So, indoctrination is yet another thing you don't understand.

Come back when you can explain the difference between grandparents and cousins. Maybe then somebody will take you seriously.

I understand what indoctrination is. You have been brainwashed. And I'm not going away because you make some silly accusation. Neither you nor biologists have correctly explained how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2818 of 2932 (905950)
02-05-2023 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2817 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 3:14 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
I understand what indoctrination is.
You really don't. There's no indoctrination in knowing the difference between grandparents and cousins. If you knew the difference, you wouldn't be afraid to explain it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 357 days)
Posts: 2142
From: United States
Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2819 of 2932 (905954)
02-05-2023 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2818 by ringo
02-05-2023 3:20 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
I understand what indoctrination is.
ringo:
You really don't. There's no indoctrination in knowing the difference between grandparents and cousins. If you knew the difference, you wouldn't be afraid to explain it.

You are indoctrinated and you are silly.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2820 of 2932 (905960)
02-05-2023 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 2819 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 3:32 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You are indoctrinated and you are silly.
Nobody cares about your opinion. Show us that you know something.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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