Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."

Kleinman:

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Hundreds of thousands of viruses invade a germ cell and not one of them is active.

Taq:

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That's correct.

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Kleinman:

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This guy claims to be an expert on viruses.

Taq:

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Which of the 200,000 endogenized retroviruses in your genome are active?

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Kleinman:

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Too bad he doesn't know how descent with modification and recombination works.

Tanypteryx:

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Too bad you have shown us you don't know how descent with modification and recombination works. You still think Gypsies create the fossils and you have no clue how retroviruses work.

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Kleinman:

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You've really done quite enough with Covid. We don't need experts on viruses like you. You have done enough damage.

Taq:

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Your inability to address the evidence is noted.

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Tanypteryx:

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Still flailing rather than addressing the evidence. Taq has demonstrated that you are nothing but a Bullshit Peddler. Your whole argument comes down to ...really? You are so cute pretending that you understand science.

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Kleinman:

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Your evidence is this claim that hundreds of thousands of viruses infect a germ cell line and not one of them causes disease.

Taq:

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Which of the 200,000 retroviral insertions in your genome is causing disease?

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Kleinman:

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And thank you so much for your contribution to Covid. If it weren't for you, millions would have died. Wait, they did die. Good job Taq.

Taq:

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Your desperation to change the subject is noted.

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Kleinman:

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ringo doesn't need proof, ringo has science, taught to him by Tany the bug chaser, master of all science.

Dredge:

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"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
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Matthew 15:14

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Dredge:

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​"If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
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Matthew 15:14

Taq:

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That's a perfect description of creationists going to creationist sites for information on ERV's. The webpage you cited tried to claim that there are less than a dozen ERV's that are shared by humans and chimps. The facts are very different. More than 99% of the 200,000 ERV's in the human genome are shared with chimps.
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Blind leading the blind indeed.

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Dredge:

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I did point out that that article was eleven years old ...

Tanypteryx:

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11 year old bullshit is still just bullshit. Still not a shred of evidence refuting the pattern of ERVs in the genomes of sexually reproducing species. Posting fraudulent claims is not supporting evidence, it just demonstrates YOUR dishonesty.

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Kleinman:

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The great bug chaser and master of all things scientific has evidence that bugs turn into humans. Such a wise bug chaser he is.

Tanypteryx:

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Boy, you will really go to extreme lengths to avoid addressing the evidence that guts your silly arguments. You are looking more and more like a fraud all the time.

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Kleinman:

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They don't cause disease because they aren't retroviruses.

Taq:

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They are retroviral insertions.
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Also, in the koala genome you can find endogenous versions of a circulating retrovirus. We can see the process of endogenization in real time. What you claim is impossible is actually happening right in front of our eyes.

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Kleinman:

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Taq is an expert on viruses. Look how he helped people with Covid.

Taq:

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You aren't going to address the lies found in the creationist article?

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Kleinman:

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Retrovirus - Wikipedia​

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Until now, we have never had the opportunity of observing or studying such genomic colonization as it takes place. Enter the koala - an Australian icon and a potentially endangered species. A recent paper in Nature by Tarlington and colleagues [1] provides evidence that koalas are in the midst of a germline invasion by the koala retrovirus (KoRV). They show that KoRV is present, at variable copy number, in the germline of all koalas found in Queensland, but that animals from some areas of southern Australia lack the provirus. Most notably, KoRV appears completely absent from koalas on Kangaroo Island off the coast of South Australia. This island was stocked with koalas in the early part of the twentieth century and has remained essentially isolated since then; it appears most likely that the small founding population was entirely free of KoRV.
Koala retrovirus: a genome invasion in real time - PMC

Taq:

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Observation of retroviral endogenization in real time.

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Kleinman:

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You and other virologists claim there are hundreds of thousands of inactive retroviruses in the human and chimp genomes. That is hogwash. You have no idea what viruses do to cells.

Taq:

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We do know that retroviruses can endogenize, something you don't seem to know.

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Kleinman:

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Is this the only example you can come up with because the virus is killing the koalas?

Taq:

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You claimed that newly endogenized retroviruses would necessarily prevent birth, but that isn't the case as shown in the koala population.

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