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Author | Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
You don't have to be very smart to be smarter than someone who thinks life started all by itself, as atheists do. It always amazes me that these cranks think they are so much smarter than everyone else that they think we are too stupid to confirm evidence. And you don't have to be very smart to be smarter than someone who thinks Darwinian theory adequately explains the history of life on earth, as per atheist folklore.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Please be advised that a software "engineer" is not a true engineer, but just a geeky nerd ... who knows precious little about maths and physics.
Having worked as an engineer (albeit software)Dr. Michael Denton from Australia. He wrote a book, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (1985). After he had published, he stated in an interview that one thing he learned after publishing was how much he had thought he had known but which he actually didn't.
Which "interview"? A citation please. Or are just making things up (again)?
he even joined with the Discovery Institute.
... which proves MD is an honest and brilliant thinker.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
There, you see ... it wasn't that hard to think clearly and honestly now, was it? you seem to also be the only ones who think Darwinian theory adequately explains the history of life on earth, I am positive that it DOES NOT, and none of us are arguing that it does. But be very careful ... that sort of talk could get you expelled from the cult, banished to the outer darkness forever, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You don't have to be very smart to be smarter than someone who thinks life started all by itself, as atheists do.Taq writes:
Oh, the irony! You are the one erecting a strawman - I didn't say anything about atheists not knowing "how life started". I'm an atheist and I will gladly admit that I don't know how life started. Perhaps you should ask what atheists think instead of erecting strawmen. No wonder you don't understand what Kleinman is saying ... you don't even understand what I'm saying!
[qs=Dredge]And you don't have to be very smart to be smarter than someone who thinks Darwinian theory adequately explains the history of life on earth, as per atheist folklore.]/qs]Taq writes:
What? You haven't yet noticed that Darwinian theory does a lousy job of explaining the history of life on earth. How old are you - ten? What isn't adequate about Darwinian theory? The following site does a good job of exposing the inadequacies of Darwinian theory:Evolution News | Reporting on intelligent design and evolution
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Investing everything in an atheist fable like UCD probably isn't the best way to approach medical science.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Why let the mathematical and empirical facts of life ruin a perfectly good fable?
But that motivates atheists to resist the mathematical and empirical facts of life.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
It's tough trying to reason with people who are clinically delusional and/or intellectually dishonest.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
A tried and true method ... that's how they got brainwashed with said garbage in the first place. They think that repeating their garbage makes it true. But some folks aren't so malleable and so easily fooled ...
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
So they abandoned one error (six literal days of creation), only to fall victim to a worse error (Darwinism and UCD)? A number of forum members are former creationists, so there's always hope. That doesn't say much for their credibility.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Kleiman writes:
I learnt Calculus by catching butterflies.
Oh yeah, you've learned a lot about the physics and mathematics of biological evolution chasing bugs.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
You've noticed that too?
They are completely biased in their thinking.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
No. I made those comments in jest. Only an idiot would take them seriously.
Is this part of what you meant when you proclaimed that all creationists are evil? And that they are created by "evilution"
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
[unwise1]The academic training for a traditional engineer in the USA is very rigorous.[/qs]
So it is in Australia. Engineering courses are considered the most difficult at university (which perhaps explains why they're relatively easy to enroll in).
My father was a civil engineer. He had his own consulting business that employed 120 people in the 1970s. His company specialised in roads and bridges. I used to work in his "soil lab" in the school holidays. I studied engineering (Bachelor of Engineering, University of Central Queensland) for one year, but my heart wasn't in it. I wanted to study Physics but my father reckoned it would only lead to a teaching job, so he urged me to study engineering instead. I passed every subject except the computer programming course. That course assumed prior study of BASIC at highschool, but there was no computer subject when I did highschool. I was clueless about computers - I had to get someone just to show me how to turn one on ... and then I couldn't log on with my name and student number coz I didn't know you had to press the "enter" key to input information. But my money ran out after one year and I switched to studying Physics externally (aka, by correspondence), with the intention of pursuing a career in geophysics. I got 1/3 of the way through that Physics degree when "the disasters" caught up with me, which put an end to my studies.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
So it is in Australia. Engineering courses are considered the most difficult at university (which perhaps explains why they're relatively easy to enroll in). The academic training for a traditional engineer in the USA is very rigorous. My father was a civil engineer. He had his own consulting business that employed 120 people in the 1970s. His company specialised in roads and bridges. I used to work in his "soil lab" in the school holidays. I studied engineering (Bachelor of Engineering, University of Central Queensland) for one year, but my heart wasn't in it. I wanted to study Physics but my father reckoned it would only lead to a teaching job, so he urged me to study engineering instead. I passed every subject except the computer programming course. That course assumed prior study of BASIC at highschool, but there was no computer subject when I did highschool. I was clueless about computers - I had to get someone just to show me how to turn one on ... and then I couldn't log on with my name and student number coz I didn't know you had to press the "enter" key to input information. But my money ran out after one year and I switched to studying Physics externally (aka, by correspondence), with the intention of pursuing a career in geophysics. I got 1/3 of the way through that Physics degree when "the disasters" caught up with me, which put an end to my studies.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes:
You forgot to mention the fact that nested hierarchies exist only within Phyla - there is no fossil evidence linking the various Phyla, such that they form a nested hierarchy. That is the smoking gun that shoots down the theory of UCD. The nested hierarchy exists, and it is smoking gun evidence of common ancestry. Contrary to Darwinist folklore, the fossil evidence doesn't reveal a single "tree" of descent, as predicted by the theory of UCD ... rather, it reveals an orchard of separate trees. But Darwinists get around this inconvenient truth by appealing to genetics - all Phyla form a nested hierarchy due to the simple fact that the genomes of all organisms on earth are based on DNA. Thus, Darwinists can claim, for example, that organisms as disparate as humans and lettuce form part of a nested hierarchy bcoz they both contain DNA.
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