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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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60-100+ million in the Americas alone.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And genocide is more than just killing individuals, it is the destruction and eradication of cultures and languages and histories and societies and ...
Christianity and if you want a Nation, the United States have been and are still striving to become the masters of genocide.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Communism is by definition, atheistic. Communist regimes are created and run by atheists.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Your psychiatrist is well aware that your grip on reality is rather tenuous and that you are a pathological liar.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
It's interesting that these links you provide are never authored by recognised historians and never appear in peer-reviewed, scholarly publications. Your sources of "information" are internet blogs ... you're a dunce and a clown
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
By definition it is not.
Please show an accepted definition that says it is atheistic. Also by practice it can be theistic. Religious communism - Wikipedia. Now Marxist-Leninist philosophy is atheistic, but that is just one version of CommunismWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Do you have any sources to show that what has been said is incorrect?
Original references were cited. Do you understand how references are used? Do you know anything about scholarly research? Pick one of the claims, refute it. Or just crawl back under your rock. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Your psychiatrist is well aware that your grip on reality is rather tenuous and that you are a pathological liar. Maybe so, but the bloody evil of your church continues.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
you're a dunce and a clown That may be so but the bloody evil that is your catholic church remains.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat Member Posts: 18351 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
just out of curiosity, do you think that all churches are evil? or only all Christian churches
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Phat Member Posts: 18351 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Building on that...
AZ writes: So by Christianity do you mean ALL people who identify as Christian? do we get majikally washed in pigs blood once we renounce our faith and become ex-believers?
Christianity has killed more humans than any other group, party, country, strongman, etc.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
do you think that all churches are evil? Do you think any of the cults have a bloodless past violently defending their version of a nonexistent fantasy? I can't think of one. Murder and genocide are not the only sins these cults commit. They insist supernatural fantasy is real which allows them to act against reality for their own zealotry. Religious restrictions on what would be normal human actions result in torture and execution. Religion's bastardization of logical, critical thought allows all manner of evil to be rationalized and sanctioned, not just by the priests, but by the people themselves. This is the greatest evil religion has foisted on this species; destruction of rational critical thought giving prominence to fantasy over reality.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Phat writes: just out of curiosity, do you think that all churches are evil? or only all Christian churches “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”--Steven Weinberg
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Phat Member Posts: 18351 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
They insist supernatural fantasy is real which allows them to act against reality But it is real. He is real. He is alive. None of the forces of darkness masquerading as progressive ideas nor of modern secular ideologies nor any other manifestation through an anti theistic zealot (not you of course ) will ever eliminate the idea of Jesus Christ for the simple reason that He is, was, and will forever be. *sips coffee* I will grant that I am not a good walking advertisement for Him. I'm working on that. Now...lets have a topic synopsis.
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Phat Member Posts: 18351 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Here is my latest attempt at a topic synopsis.
Message 1276 jar:Despite our many rabbit trails...some political, some ideological, and some roughly on topic, we need to focus on what the Meaning of the Trinity is. jar and AZ and Theo are pointing out the hypocrisy of the Church. Dredge is defending his church but not the rest of them. And candle2 is lamenting the evils of secular godless governments. Allow me to address all of you in this topic synopsis. AZPaul3 writes: This line of thinking reminds me of what jar said many moons ago. Something to the effect of Christians need to be responsible for the bad done in the name of their religion as well as the good. Onward christian soldiers. Just ask the indigenous peoples of the americas. Oh you can't. Your church already killed them all. AZ sees absolutely no good, but according to our (some of our) Theology he leaves himself open for other spirits to poison him. Just because one does not believe in a spirit is no barrier to influence by a spirit. And of course we would argue (how conveniently!) that the Holy Spirit...unique and alone...never possesses or forces itself on to or in to anyone. No way to prove it, though. We all will just have to agree to disagree.
Taq writes: There is another R word. Religion. The educated among you will argue that the Trinity doctrine is/was a product of religion. Organized religion. Church people behaving manipulatively and purposefully. And its not an argument I will ry and refute. “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”--Steven Weinberg The question in my mind is whether This group of people known as the Church will ever distance themselves far enough away from secularism so as to be unique.
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