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jar
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Message 1276 of 1864 (906646)
02-15-2023 8:28 AM
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02-15-2023 8:24 AM


Re: Jar Likes To Frame Issues Jars Way
LOL
What is the title of the topic?

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Phat
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Message 1277 of 1864 (906647)
02-15-2023 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1276 by jar
02-15-2023 8:28 AM


Re: Jar Likes To Frame Issues Jars Way
The topic is The Meaning Of The Trinity. It was started by retired EvC member, sidelined.

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Theodoric
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Message 1278 of 1864 (906648)
02-15-2023 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1276 by jar
02-15-2023 8:28 AM


Phat stay on topic?
Are you dreaming?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Taq
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Message 1279 of 1864 (906649)
02-15-2023 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1264 by candle2
02-14-2023 4:52 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
candle2 writes:
Taq, nazism controlled all the Liberals now control in
America.

It is the Liberals who push the agenda of racism.
Do you really think this type of nonsense convinces anyone?
Critical Race Theory is openly taught in grade school and
colleges. In many of these places whites are told that
they don't have the right to speak.
Name one grade school where CRT is taught. CRT is taught in graduate school, if anywhere. Even more, I highly, highly doubt you even know what CRT is. Much like "nazism", it is just a scare word that you can't define.
There is not one Liberal politician that can define what a
woman is. This is basic biology and they are too stupid to
understand this.
Sex is not gender. What is so horrible about a person defining their own gender?
You know who else attacked trans people like Conservatives do? Nazis.
And only a total nut believes in "white privilege."
So it's just a coincidence that white people have 50% higher incomes than black people.
America cannot heal as long as these idiotic agendas
are being pushed on us.
So says the person pushing idiotic agendas.

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Message 1280 of 1864 (906660)
02-15-2023 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1279 by Taq
02-15-2023 9:59 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Taq, you ask do I think it coincidence that whites have
fifty percent higher incomes that blacks.
No.
Nor do I think it is coincidence that Whites earn 80% of
Asian Americans income.
61% of AA's have a BA or higher. Compared to:
40% of Whites;
21% of Hispanics; and,
29% of Blacks.
Any Blacks who want to attend college in the USA Can
get the grants to do so. They 100% can.
AA's and Whites SAR much score significantly higher on
SAT scores to have the same chance of admissions as
blacks.
AA's are docked more than Whites.
Liberals try to assign lower SAT scores to hidden biases.
They say the biases are hidden because they can't even
point them out.
85% of AA's are reared in a family with both parents.
This compares to:
74% for Whites;
61% for Hispanics; and,
36% for Blacks.
Kids with one parent, especially boys, lack the day to day
involvement, guidance, and positive example and influence,
as well as the financial stability that kids of two parents
enjoy.
Kids raised by single mothers are more prone to act up;
lashout; flounder in school; and, fail at work.
They develop behavioral problems.
I was raised in an orphanage and I know that this is
true. Most kids who left the orphanage had/have
issues, some severe.
Black inner city kids join gangs, take drugs, and commit
crimes at high levels.
Black men are more than a dozen times more likely to
shoot a police officer than the other way around.
But, the Liberal media, with its agenda, covers this fact up.
A 10% increase in single parent homes equates to an
increase of 17-18% increase in true crimes.
Racism has absolutely nothing to do with the disparity
In incomes.
We are all responsible for our success or failure.
I can see you watching the Liberal News, with your eyes
wide open, much like a kid watching Saturday morning
cartoons. Believing everything they say.
Everyone knows that the Liberal News Networks are as
hard core Democrats as any Democrat politician out there.
My question is how can anyone expect to hear the truth
from them?
Only an idiot would think that a man can become a
woman or that a woman can become a man.
Anyone that does not know the difference should not be
allowed to vote.

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Phat
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Message 1281 of 1864 (906664)
02-15-2023 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1280 by candle2
02-15-2023 6:23 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
candle2: I agree with you on some points and disagree with you on others. Perhaps you can comment at my new post, When Fascism Comes To America. I oppose Socialism on the grounds that it is against getting ahead. It seeks to tax everyone enough to
1) Pay the Bills.
2) Help the poor, even those who don't work nor want to work.
I'm more for free enterprise and the opportunity to get ahead. Anyway, here is where I disagree with you:
candle2 writes:
Everyone knows that the Liberal News Networks are as
hard core Democrats as any Democrat politician out there.

My question is how can anyone expect to hear the truth
from them?
I would be cautious at lumping "them" together, unless you are talking of a Socialist Agenda. I think that the Conservatives need to fight expanding socialism beyond what we already have. In addition, I disagree with the idea that schools can supercedee parents in the education of their children.
candle2 writes:
Black men are more than a dozen times more likely to
shoot a police officer than the other way around.
That sounds suspicious to me. I don't buy it. Where did you get the data?
anyone that does not know the difference should not be
allowed to vote.
That sounds rather Fascist. Too authoritarian for my blood.

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Dredge
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Message 1282 of 1864 (906735)
02-16-2023 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1249 by Theodoric
02-13-2023 10:55 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Whichever way you want to twist it, it's an undeniable historical fact that Christianity put an end to Viking aggression and plundering.

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Phat
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Message 1283 of 1864 (906736)
02-16-2023 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1282 by Dredge
02-16-2023 1:26 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
I was unaware that "Christianity" had an army.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1284 of 1864 (906737)
02-16-2023 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1283 by Phat
02-16-2023 1:27 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Onward christian soldiers. Just ask the indigenous peoples of the americas. Oh you can't. Your church already killed them all.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 1285 of 1864 (906738)
02-16-2023 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1250 by jar
02-14-2023 7:33 AM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
jar writes:
No one has ever done genocide more efficiently and effectively than Christianity
What crap. Communism (aka atheism) was responsible for far more loss of human life (at least 100 million) in one century than in 2000 years of Christianity.

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Taq
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Message 1286 of 1864 (906739)
02-16-2023 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1285 by Dredge
02-16-2023 1:33 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Dredge writes:
Communism (aka atheism)
You have just proven that you don't know what Communism or Atheism are.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1287 of 1864 (906743)
02-16-2023 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1285 by Dredge
02-16-2023 1:33 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
You want to dispute the figure of 1m per year for 750 years? That's ...
wait ... carry the 4 ... 750 million people killed, starved, diseased, stabbed, tortured and prayed to death by your evil church.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 1288 of 1864 (906754)
02-16-2023 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1287 by AZPaul3
02-16-2023 1:44 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
I will dispute the figure of a million people per year. Show me the data and link it (not to a Country) but to a church. "The Church". Governments kill people. Armies kill people. Bad Priests do other things. But the good Priests far outweigh the bad. And last time I checked, neither Jerry Falwell, Joel Olsteen, or Pope Francis had any armies.

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Message 1289 of 1864 (906761)
02-16-2023 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1282 by Dredge
02-16-2023 1:26 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
No, no it isn't If it were you would present evidence. The Norse people and people of Scandinavia did not become miraculously peaceful with the coming of christianity.
Maybe you have heard of Rollo of Normandy, Cnut, Harald Hadrada, and a few centuries later Gustavus Adolphus

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AZPaul3
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Message 1290 of 1864 (906768)
02-16-2023 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1288 by Phat
02-16-2023 2:13 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
OK. You got me. I don't have all 750 million names. How about we go half-million a year for 1500 years. Is that better?
https://www.quora.com/...0-million-since-the-birth-of-Christ
Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades - Stellar House Publishing
These are just real quick. Regardless, Dredge's BS is well below reality. Christianity has killed more humans than any other group, party, country, strongman, etc.
You don't get more evil than that.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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