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Message 17 of 1864 (380997)
01-29-2007 3:21 PM
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01-28-2007 11:20 PM


Re: The Physical Resurrection
kjv luke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
kjv john 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, etc...
kjv Revelation 1:8 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and , behold, I am alive for evermore, etc...
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Message 23 of 1864 (381122)
01-29-2007 10:10 PM
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Gog's Jaw & The Hook's Ezek 38:1-6
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Message 27 of 1864 (381259)
01-30-2007 12:19 PM
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01-30-2007 10:27 AM


Re: The Physical Resurrection
As I understand end time predictions, all that have lived and died will arise for the final judgement.
That is the second resurrection.
There are many souls in heaven at present including Jesus. He like all the rest is to reclaim their physical form upon return.
Jesus already has been raptured in heaven however when Christians die their spirit goes up to behold his glory that he had before the world was. The born again believers in Christ will reclaim their physical form at the rapture event. (The first resurrection).
At that time is when we truly see if Jesus sits at the right hand of God.
The marriage supper of the Lamb the first resurrection event in heaven. The raptured will have bodies in heaven at this point in time while on earth the wrath of God will be poured out. Those that refuse the mark of the beast will be martyred and be a part of the first resurrection.
If I recall correctly, end time prediction speak of electing a God for ourselves. Jesus then becomes a candidate to speak to all the other false prophets that dwell at end time.
The anti-christ and the beast is end time prophesy and he will speak to all the false prophets that dwell at the end time. Jesus Christ then comes down with the saints and because he is king of kings and lord of lords he will overcome them. kjv Revelation 17:14
Elijah and Enoch have never died thus they are up in heaven too with physical bodies. They are not spirits, Jesus is not just a spirit but he that was dead is alive for evermore, etc... kjv rev 1:18 All the other spirits of believers in heaven will not recieve incorruptible bodies like Christ has until the rapture. This is part of the first resurrection those that are beheaded or martyred on earth after the rapture will complete the first resurrection and rule and reign with Christ for the thousand years. kjv rev 20:4
Its the second resurrection that all that have died that were not in the first resurrection will be raptured. Those not in the book of life will experience a second death as their new bodies are thrown into the lake of fire. This is in respect to the great judgment.
After the end the earth will find itself with a human political leader and it will also have a human spiritual leader.
No, When Jesus takes his rule for a thousand years he will rule however those of the first resurrection will rule and reign with Christ. Your confusing the anti-christ who will have a spiritual leader. kjv rev 13:11-12.
Those not experiencing the second death (Great White Throne Judgment kjv rev 20:11-15)will see a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. kjv rev 21:1
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Message 29 of 1864 (381278)
01-30-2007 1:44 PM
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01-30-2007 1:06 PM


Re: The Physical Resurrection
The fact of Jesus having a body in heaven at end time and perhaps even now will become irrelevent.
It will become more relevant as the church is raptured out of the end times to those left behind. The anti-christ(not Jesus) and the false prophet (false religious leader) will be overcome by Christ that is Jesus.
You have helped make my case for a world government lead by a man and our religious, spiritual side lead by a man.
Yes, the anti-christ and the false prophet.
The man in your case is Jesus.
Sounds good to me.
Jesus is also the Christ, the Word, Emmanuel, etc... it does sound good, etc...
kjv john 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
kjv john 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
kjv 1 john 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one.
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Message 31 of 1864 (381905)
02-02-2007 11:55 AM
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02-02-2007 10:09 AM


Re: The Physical Resurrection
You indicate that some will be left behind.
I would suggest that at that time God takes us all in because all souls, if God is God, are Perfect.
kjv Luke 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
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Message 33 of 1864 (382057)
02-03-2007 12:09 AM
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02-02-2007 12:17 PM


Re: The Physical Resurrection
Leaving any would constitute a failure on God's part.
This is not allowed by God.
With God all things happen in their time, it would not make any sense if some are not left behind. Its the rapture the first part of the first resurrection completed when the souls of them that are killed for their faith that were left behind are resurrected. All souls that have ever lived that are not of the first resurrection will be a part of the second resurrection that will happen after the thousand year rule of Christ for the Great White Throne judgment. Its prophecy and if it happened any other way it would violate prophecy, etc...
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