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Message 484 of 1864 (887074)
07-07-2021 10:38 AM
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07-07-2021 10:09 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
The Ringo/jar argument: Christianity is about what we do.
Why call that "the Ringo/jar argument". Why not call it "The Jesus Argument" -- it is what Jesus clearly taught.

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Message 512 of 1864 (898961)
10-04-2022 3:10 PM
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10-04-2022 1:46 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Phat, the verses containing the very earliest recorded
history are John 1:1-2.
That's not history. It is philosophy. And it is a poetic metaphor, rather than a description.

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Message 532 of 1864 (899038)
10-07-2022 10:17 AM
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10-07-2022 3:59 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
I say that in my mind, God made a change.
And I say that Phat made a change.

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Message 542 of 1864 (899088)
10-08-2022 1:06 PM
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10-08-2022 12:44 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Why cant it be both, acting in Communion?
That seems to leave is with two possibilities:
(1) Phat doesn't exist, except as God's puppet;
or
(2) God doesn't exist, except as Phat's puppet.
I think I prefer the second of those.

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Message 550 of 1864 (899154)
10-09-2022 10:15 AM
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10-09-2022 9:34 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
And there are many more that contradict clear
Biblical teaching.
I'll just note that clear Biblical teaching is not at all clear.

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Message 672 of 1864 (899786)
10-19-2022 12:44 PM
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10-19-2022 9:59 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
You can lay out articles day after day; month after
months; and, year after year, but dating methods rely on
assumptions. And, assuming something is not science;
it is guesswork.
Every time you take a step while walking, you assume that your foot won't fall through the ground. That's an assumption. All of life is full of assumptions. Even mathematics depends on assumptions (which we call axioms).
You cannot get away from depending on assumptions. The assumptions that science makes are well tested.

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Message 675 of 1864 (899808)
10-19-2022 4:23 PM
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10-19-2022 2:43 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, the wrong assumption can lead to wrong conclusions.
Agreed. However, the assumptions behind radio carbon dating have been thoroughly tested. We understand that you don't like them because they thoroughly refute your YEC beliefs. But your YEC beliefs are only an assumptioin.

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Message 682 of 1864 (900027)
10-22-2022 10:51 AM
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10-22-2022 9:55 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Even if we lay assumptions aside, we cannot get past the
absence of transitional fossils.
There are lots of transitional fossils.
Nor, can we get around the
fact that never has life been observed coming from
non-life.
I'll note that no actual god has ever been observed.

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Message 720 of 1864 (900296)
10-26-2022 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 716 by candle2
10-26-2022 10:08 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
It is this whole Godless attitude of the left that I
abhor.
I am more concerned about the fake Christians on the right.
Obama and some other Liberals are in favor of
allowing abortions (murders) up until 28 days
after birth.
You are a prime example of those fake Christians. There you are spreading false rumors. You are violating the commandment about bearing false witness.
Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them." And that's how we can tell that you are a fake Christian.
You are in a cult. You spread false rumors because your cult leaders tell you to believe them.
Your God gave you a brain. You are supposed to use it.
Get out of that cult, for your own sake. Stop spreading evil lies.

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Message 724 of 1864 (900310)
10-26-2022 3:31 PM
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10-26-2022 3:06 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, are you saying that God despises those who try to
protect innocent life?
You are not trying to protect innocent life when you are making false accusations. If anything, you are endangering innocent life.
There is no cult worse, nor even close, to that of the
Liberal, Progressive Democrats.
I wouldn't know. I'm not a Democrat. But I believe you are making a mistake when you conflate "progressive" with "liberal".

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Message 728 of 1864 (900347)
10-26-2022 7:51 PM
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10-26-2022 7:10 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, I don't make false accusations, that would be a
violation of the 9th Commandment.
But you did indeed make a false accusation, as I pointed out in Message 720.
Progressives are more hard-core and determined in
in their pursuit of Liberal policies.
I observe many liberals criticizing progressive policies.
As I mentioned before, you are in a cult. You cannot tell what is true and what is false, because your cult feeds you false information.

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Message 736 of 1864 (900398)
10-27-2022 9:58 AM
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10-27-2022 8:41 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, I looked at post 720, and all I saw was someone
who supports any and all abortions
Then you are not seeing straight.
What I see in that post, is where I quoted you telling a deliberate and malicious falsehood.
For the record, I do not "support any and all abortions". So that's another malicious falsehood.

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Message 742 of 1864 (900443)
10-27-2022 12:51 PM
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10-27-2022 9:35 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dwise, there are a number of verses that condemns
abortion in the Bible.
Have you tried looking for verses that recommend abortion?

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Message 924 of 1864 (902999)
11-29-2022 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 922 by candle2
11-29-2022 12:53 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Conserve means to conserve the ways of life that has
made America the envy of the world.
Most of the people who call themselves conservatives do not fit that description.
Progress, for Liberals, means castrating young boys;
cutting of the breasts of young girls; killing little babies
as they are being born; allowing fat males (Brian Nguyen)
to win Miss America, and, men (Thomas) to win female
swimming titles.

They make the ignorant believe that males are toxic and
that women should always be believed. That all whites
are racists, and, that all police should be abolished.
Complete bullshit.
I'm a liberal, but I do not believe any of those things.
Why are you so consumed with hatred?

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Message 932 of 1864 (903021)
11-30-2022 10:06 AM
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11-30-2022 8:33 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
You call castrating young boys good; when in fact it is
pure evil.
That's a false accusation. You are violating your commandment about bearing false witness.
All of the things that I mentioned about the Liberal
party is true.
There's no such thing as "the Liberal party" in the USA. I am not a member of any political party. I prefer to remain independent.
There are also some decent conservatives whom I can respect. But the Republican party in the USA has become very evil.
I grew up as a Christian, but came to doubt some of the core beliefs. But the real reason that I left Christianity, was because the church was so hopelessly unchristian.
Sorry to say it, but you are one of those who are unchristian. You spread false information, and you make false accusations. Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them." And that's why I see you as unchristian.

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