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Message 1702 of 2932 (901845)
11-15-2022 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1023 by Kleinman
10-29-2022 11:31 AM


Re: Addition Rule Confusion
Obviously, AZPaul3 is a Kari Lake supporter.
Just to emphasize the point - Lake, your Nazi bitch, lost.
Katie Hobbs Tops Kari Lake for Arizona Governor - The New York Times

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Message 1709 of 2932 (901855)
11-15-2022 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1706 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 8:21 AM


Re: Addition Rule Confusion
Meaningless deflection.
That's a foregone conclusion. Your Nazi girlfriend cannot stop it.

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Message 1714 of 2932 (901860)
11-15-2022 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1710 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 10:06 AM


Re: Addition Rule Confusion
Who is going to stop California from taking all of your water?
Not your Nazi repugnicans, that's for sure.

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Message 1770 of 2932 (901927)
11-15-2022 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1757 by Tanypteryx
11-15-2022 3:01 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes:
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The great bug chaser and master of all things scientific has evidence that bugs turn into humans. Such a wise bug chaser he is.
I got dibs on Spiderman!

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Message 1772 of 2932 (901929)
11-15-2022 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1769 by Kleinman
11-15-2022 3:55 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Where are your hundreds of thousands of inactive viruses?
Haven't you learned anything from this thread?
Bits and pieces are all throughout the genome and acquired over many millions of years. Even a non-genius mathematician like me knows that. But then, we do have this discussion every few years and it's only the most ignorant people, like yourself Kleinman, that do not know this quite old, quite evidenced, fact.
Your brilliant scholarship shines yet again.

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Message 1786 of 2932 (901954)
11-16-2022 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1780 by Taq
11-16-2022 11:35 AM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I strongly suspect I am not the one who is confused on this subject.
Does he really believe you are talking about a 200 k virus load? Or 200 k complete virus genomes absorbed into the human lineage ready to spring into action? Is he that ignorant of the topic?

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AZPaul3
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Message 1788 of 2932 (901958)
11-16-2022 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1787 by Tanypteryx
11-16-2022 1:00 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
So he is using his ignorance on this specific as smoke and mirrors to hide his ignorance of the topic in general? That's nicely convoluted. Kleinman the convoluted. It fits.

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Message 1792 of 2932 (901962)
11-16-2022 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1789 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 1:21 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Hey dim bulb, how about a germ cell being infected 200k times?
Hey sheep dip, how about a population being infected with various viruses 200 k times over many many generations? Do you think viral infections in populations only involve somatic cells? You're not thinking this through.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1793 of 2932 (901963)
11-16-2022 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1790 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 1:23 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Yeah, Tany thinks a germ cell line can survive when infected 200k times.
No, that is your deliberate misrepresentation of what Tany said. And, yes, the germ line pool of a population can do some amazing things, many of which your religious BS doesn't like. Things like turn monkeys into men. And, yes, as in Tany's case, relate damselflies to the human lineage.
You lie so easily, don't you.

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Message 1796 of 2932 (901966)
11-16-2022 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1791 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 1:28 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I'm not the one claiming that 200k viral infections of the germ cell line do nothing.
No one is.
The claim is that the gene pool of a population can hold the inserted remnants of past viral infections and the human genome shows 200k+ such insertions over the history of its lineage.
You just have to lie about everything, don't you.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1797 of 2932 (901967)
11-16-2022 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1795 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 2:07 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I'm not misrepresenting any of Tany's claims,
Yes, you are. Everyone can see it.
And now you are deliberately lying about your misrepresentation. It just gets piled higher and deeper with you.

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Message 1800 of 2932 (901971)
11-16-2022 2:31 PM
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11-16-2022 2:02 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Now think through what would happen if a retroviral infection occurs 200k times ...
What makes you think the human gene pool could not absorb 200k+ insertions in its millions+- year history?
No one is talking about infecting one cell 200k+ times. That is a stupidity that is difficult to deal with even coming from ol' muddle math yourself.

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Message 1805 of 2932 (901976)
11-16-2022 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1798 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 2:17 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
They want to believe that a cell line can survive 200k viral infections.
Wow, you really have missed entire elements of this discussion.
No, that is not what they want to believe. You missed the essential points and have now steel-trapped this bogus fantasy into your head.

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Message 1822 of 2932 (902001)
11-16-2022 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1809 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 3:12 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I don't accept your nonsense that the human germline has had 200k retroviral infections.
We don't care. What we care about is your deliberate misrepresentation of the discussion.
This is not about infecting one cell 200k+ times or how to kill koala bears. It is about human genome accumulating ERVs over time. We don't care if you believe or not. We understand your religious objections since ERVs are a direct result of evolution, which you hate and must kill.
But being deliberately dishonest about what the subject even is, misrepresenting and even lying about what others have said, faking your sources, is more than an intellectual failure. It is a moral failure.
Your god is not going to be happy with you.

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Message 1831 of 2932 (902013)
11-16-2022 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1827 by Kleinman
11-16-2022 4:18 PM


Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I hope you like it dry, real dry.
I hope you like it hot, Lake O' Fire hot.

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