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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Dredge writes: Your repugnant defence of gross immorality (homosexuality = bestiality) is unfortunately reflected in the wider world ... one symptom of a very corrupt, very sick civilization ... that is destined for destruction.. Like I say, you're not a Christian; Christ commands you to love and forgive, you just hate. You must fear for your soul lawyer. Why did your god create homosexuals?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Tell Jesus when you meet him on Judgement Day. I'm sure he'll be very interested in your expert opinion.
you're not a ChristianWhy did your god create homosexuals?
That's like asking,"Why did God create people who have sex with farm animals?" or "Why did God create men who want to rape little boys?" What you need to do is eschew depravity and develop some homophobic pride, like me.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Dredge writes: What you need to do is eschew depravity and develop some homophobic pride, like me. As you've now abandoned any pretence of loving the sinner but hating the sin, how are you going explain to your maker that you disobeyed his commandments to love and forgive by holding hatred of others deep in your heart? Are you hoping to rely on quoting sub-section 18, paragraph 17 of the relevant Act, lawyer? I don't think that would cut much ice with the Almighty who actually knows your thoughts and feelings. I don't believe that you actually believe in Christ's message, I think that like most fundamentalists you're only interested in yourself.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
nwr writes:
Allowing Catholic clergy to marry would have little, if any, effect on the problem. The problem is 93% the fault of homosexuals ... homosexual clergy wouldn't marry, so the pederast problem would remain. As long as they maintain their celibacy requirement, they will continue to have this problem. The Church has taken the best course of action, which is to exclude queers from the clergy.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
According to your definition of "homophobic", God is homophobic and Jesus is homophobic.
In other words, being "homophobic" is a holy Christian virtue. Your knowledge of Christianity is deeply flawed and childishly superficial. Sadly, I don't think you have the moral capacity to ever be a Christian ... as evidenced by your devotion to the cesspit of bestiality.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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You've gotta laugh...
quote: Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Phat Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I had to look up where you ot this take on a traditional story. Figures it was from Vice Magazine!
Was Jesus Gay? According to one theologian, Jesus Christ was both a top and a bottom. Hardly a reliable source.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sicko.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
They imitate their father, who is the father of lies (John 8:44).
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Phat writes: Hardly a reliable source. I thought it was funny. But is it false? It's a story in your bible. Want to prove it wrong?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Dredge writes:
Not me lawyer, blame your Catholic compatriots
Sicko. Homosexual interpretationDaniel A. Helminiak, an American Catholic priest, theologian and author of "What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality", states that the word pais, used for the servant, could have a sexual meaning.[11] Theodore W. Jennings Jr. and Tat-Siong Benny Liew, also authors of various Christian books, further write that Roman historical data about patron-client relationships and about same-sex relations among soldiers support the view that the pais in Matthew's account is the centurion's "boy-lover", and that the centurion, therefore, did not want Jesus to enter his house for fear perhaps that the boy would be enamoured of Jesus instead. The Roman military historian D.B. Saddington writes that while he does not exclude the possibility, the evidence the two put forward supports "neither of these interpretations".[12] Healing the centurion's servant - WikipediaJe suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, why do Catholics place all their faith in
"Catechism of the Catholic Church," which directly contradicts the Bible in nearly every doctrine? The Bible condemns idol worship; yet, the RCC bows tothe pope; to statues (especially of Mary); and, to other icons that the RCC revere. Anyone who doesn't believe this can "Google" hundredsof images showing this to be true. The Bible tells us to not only forgive those who wrong us,but to pray for them. John Wycliffe printed the Holy Bible into English, whichwas a big no-no to the ever tolerant Catholic Church. Imagine that! A man who wished for people to be ableto read the words of God themselves. This was a great sin in the eyes of the church leadershipin Rome. We all know why. 44 years after the death of John Wycliffe the RCC dug uphis bones and ground them into powder. Then they burned the powder until all traces were gone. Any decent human being would consider this the actionsof a church ruled over by Satan, not one following the precepts of God, who commands us to love thy neighbor as thyself. The inquisition, which was spearheaded by the RCC, isestimated to have took the lives of anywhere from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands. One was forced to recant their religious beliefs ortortured and killed. They were ordered to switch to the doctrines of the RCC. Anyone loyal to God's Sabbaths were the church'sprimary targets. One was forced to accept the "mark" of the RCC (beast), or to die for remaining true to God. This will happen one more time. The 30 year war (1618-48) had more than 8,000,000casualties, when Ferdinand 2, the Holy Roman Emperor attempted to force Catholicism on all citizens. The HRE is the first beast. The RCC is the second beastIn Rev.13 The RCC is an image of the HRE. They both rule from thetop down. The "mark" of both is Sunday, and both the head of the HRE and RCC are/were revered as gods.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, CCC, paragraph 969 states that Mary is an
advocate. Helper, benefactress, and mediatrex of all graces. According to the RCC, God will not listen to prayers notoffered through Mary. 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 John 21 states that Jesus is our Advocate (intercessor)with the Father. Not Mary. The CCC and the Bible disagree on this. One is right andone is wrong. CCC, paragraph 499 states that Mary is a perpetualvirgin, that Christ's birth did not diminish His mother's vaginal integrity but sanctified it. According to the RCC, Mary never had sex with herhusband, Joseph. Matthew 13: 55-56 states that Jesus had at least fourbrothers and two sisters. Matthew 1:25 clearly states that Jesus was Mary's"firstborn" son-not her only son. Furthermore, it states that Joseph knew her not until shehad brought forth her first son. He did not have sex with her until after the birth of Jesus. Joseph and Mary had the same emotions as all of us do.God designed sex, not only for procreation, but for enjoyment between a husband and wife. Sex between a husband and wife is nothing to feel shameabout.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, the RCC insists that Mary is free from the
original sin-immaculate conception, CCC paragraph 491. She, according to them, needed no sacrifice for her sins. In other words, she is sinless. 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceiveourselves, and the truth is not in us." Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of theglory of God." Luke 1:46-47 "And Mary said, My soul doth magnify theLord." "And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour."
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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1. HEAR thou my call, O Indra; be not heedless: thine may we be for thee to give us treasures;
For these presented viands, seeking riches, increase thy strength like streams of water flowing. 2 Floods great and many, compassed by the Dragon, thou badest swell and settest free, O Hero. Strengthened by songs of praise thou rentest piecemeal the Dāsa, him who deemed himself immortal. 3 For, Hero, in the lauds wherein thou joyedst, in hymns of praise, O Indra, songs of Rudras, These streams in which is thy delight approach thee, even as the brilliant ones draw near to Vāyu. 4 We who add strength to thine own splendid vigour, laying within thine arms the splendid thunder— With us mayst thou, O Indra, waxen splendid, with Sūrya overcome the Dāsa races. 5 Hero, thou slewest in thy valour Ahi concealed in depths, mysterious, great enchanter, Dwelling enveloped deep within the waters, him who checked heaven and stayed the floods from flowing. 6 Indra, we laud thy great deeds wrought aforetime, we laud thine exploits later of achievement; We laud the bolt that in thine arms lies eager; we laud thy two Bay Steeds, heralds of Sūrya. 7 Indra, thy Bay Steeds showing forth their vigour have sent a loud cry out that droppeth fatness. The earth hath spread herself in all her fulness: the cloud that was about to move hath rested. 8 Down, never ceasing, hath the rain-cloud settled: bellowing, it hath wandered with the Mothers. Swelling the roar in the far distant limits, they have spread wide the blast sent forth by Indra. 9 Indra hath hurled down the magician Vṛtra who lay beleaguering the mighty river. Then both the heaven and earth trembled in terror at the strong Hero's thunder when he bellowed. 10 Loud roared the mighty Hero's bolt of thunder, when he, the Friend of man, burnt up the monster, And, having drunk his fill of flowing Soma, baffled the guileful Dānava's devices. 11 Drink thou, O Hero Indra, drink the Soma; let the joy-giving juices make thee joyful. They, filling both thy flanks, shall swell thy vigour. The juice that satisfies hath helped Indra. 12 Singers have we become with thee, O Indra: may we serve duly and prepare devotion. Seeking thy help we meditate thy praises: may we at once enjoy thy gift of riches. 13 May we be thine, such by thy help, O Indra, as swell thy vigour while they seek thy favour. Give us, thou God, the riches that we long for, most powerful, with stare of noble children. 14 Give us a friend, give us an habitation; Indra, give us the company of Maruts, And those whose minds accord with theirs, the Vāyus, who drink the first libation of the Soma. 15 Let those enjoy in whom thou art delighted. Indra, drink Soma for thy strength and gladness. Thou hast exalted us to heaven, Preserver, in battles, through the lofty hymns that praise thee. -HYMN XI. Indra.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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