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Tangle
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Message 1726 of 1864 (910149)
04-18-2023 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1723 by Dredge
04-17-2023 2:03 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Putin the mass-murdering Christian Communist
Putin and the Orthodox Church: how his faith shapes his politics - Theos Think Tank - Understanding faith. Enriching society.
Great picture that I can't make show on the forum.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1727 of 1864 (910150)
04-18-2023 6:27 AM
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04-18-2023 3:15 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Great picture that I can't make show on the forum.
Got it.
"Putin the mass-murdering Christian Communist"

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1728 of 1864 (910153)
04-18-2023 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1725 by AZPaul3
04-17-2023 4:31 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, in Matthew 22:37-39, a young man asked Jesus
which of the Commandments is the greatest.
Jesus answered, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."
"This is the first and great Commandment."
"And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor
as thyself."
The first four Commandments are directed towards our
worship of God.
The last six tells us how to treat others.
In these verses Jesus stated that all (not 3, 7, or 9) of the
Commandments are to be obeyed.
Never has a war been started as a result of obeying the
laws and Commandments of God.
Just because someone says that he or she is a Christian
does not make it so.
A true Christian will live by all of Christ's examples and laws.
No sir: wars are not started by people who obey God's laws.
Wars are started by those who have no respect for God, or
His laws.
Humans serve one ot two masters. One cannot serve both.
One does not even need to be conscious of, nor does one
need to believe, the false master in order to serve him.
All humans serve one or the other; there are no exceptions.
The second one is the source of all hate, misery, and wars.

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Message 1729 of 1864 (910154)
04-18-2023 8:44 AM
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04-18-2023 6:27 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
The Christian God is on his side for sure.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1730 of 1864 (910162)
04-18-2023 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1728 by candle2
04-18-2023 8:24 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Humans serve one ot two masters. One cannot serve both.
One does not even need to be conscious of, nor does one
need to believe, the false master in order to serve him.
All humans serve one or the other; there are no exceptions.
The second one is the source of all hate, misery, and wars.
You and your religion cannot help but divide. You divide the good from the bad; the righteous from the evil; the straight from the gay; the black from the white.
You divide “them” from ‘us”.
All using the wishy-washy jumbled competing meanings of your most sacred scriptures. Yet you go further and condemn people who think different, who act different, who are different.
There is no “human” in your creed. There is only division and the hatred that caused it and that it causes.
The human condition is much broader and more complex than your false binary divides. Your religion feeds these poisons into the human consciousness. You exacerbate that poison in this forum. You are the evil one.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1731 of 1864 (910167)
04-18-2023 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1730 by AZPaul3
04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Atheists like you are too stupid to see that you're contradicting your own belief system. If there is no after-life and life is the result of mindless evolution, life has no meaning ... so why are you carrying on as if life does have meaning?
Since your belief system implies that life is meaingless, your moralistic complaints about "division" and "hatred" are vacuous and groundless - products of your delusion that life has meaning.
Division is as meaningless as unity and hatred is as meaningless as love. But you and your fellow atheists are too dumb to work that out.

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Message 1732 of 1864 (910169)
04-18-2023 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1731 by Dredge
04-18-2023 2:37 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes:
Atheists like you are too stupid to see that you're contradicting your own belief system.
It's a non-belief system. Atheists don't believe in god(s). That's it. That's everything. It's not much to remember but for some reason you just can't make it stick.
If there is no after-life and life is the result of mindless evolution, life has no meaning ... so why are you carrying on as if life does have meaning?
Given that atheists don't suicide the moment they become atheists, perhaps there's something wrong with your premise?
Could it be that a superstitious belief in a 2,000 year old mythology is not required in order to find meaning in life? You need to think that through lawyer. If you can.
Best do it before you have to explain yourself would be my advice.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1733 of 1864 (910170)
04-18-2023 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1730 by AZPaul3
04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
the black from the white
Christianity divides "the black from the white"?
Please explain.

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Dredge
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Message 1734 of 1864 (910172)
04-18-2023 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1730 by AZPaul3
04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
the black from the white
So says the hypocrite who would rather cut off his right hand than live in a black neighbourhood.

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Message 1735 of 1864 (910173)
04-18-2023 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1731 by Dredge
04-18-2023 2:37 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
... so why are you carrying on as if life does have meaning?
That you have to ask indicates you couldn't comprehend. There is no humanity within you. You are all catechism.
I find meaning in living. I'm sorry you don't. You must be lonely.
Since your belief system implies that life is meaingless ...
No it doesn't. You are forcing that implication from your need of a weapon. Sorry. Ignorance and stupidity are your only weapons as your post well shows.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 1736 of 1864 (910174)
04-18-2023 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1734 by Dredge
04-18-2023 3:10 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Where did this racist crap come from?
I know I struck a nerve but, man, when you try to deflect you get way off target. Do you have to be racist? Oh wait ... your also a homophobe.
Typical cracker-munching christian.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1737 of 1864 (910178)
04-18-2023 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1730 by AZPaul3
04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling writes:
you go further and condemn people who think different, who act different, who are different.
So you're saying no atheists are racist or "homophobic", for example. That is far from the truth.
you go further and condemn people who think different, who act different, who are different.
Hypocrite. You condemn Christians bcoz they think different, act different, are different.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1738 of 1864 (910179)
04-18-2023 4:23 PM
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04-18-2023 4:05 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
So you're saying no atheists are racist or "homophobic"
No. Not what was said. The topic is not atheist thoughts but your churches actions. Stop trying to deflect.
Hypocrite. You condemn Christians bcoz they think different, act different, are different.
Almost. The "act" part is the killer. Literally ... by the millions ... each millennia.
Yes. I condemn christians for an entire human history of needlessly barbaric killings.
Your creed, indeed all religious creeds, need to be resisted then laughed at then forgotten.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1739 of 1864 (910182)
04-18-2023 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1730 by AZPaul3
04-18-2023 12:25 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
You and your religion cannot help but divide.
That is undoubtedly true ...
"I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed" (Genesis 3:15)
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s foes will be those of his own household" (Matt 10:34-36)
“When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left." (Matt 25:31-33)
"He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." (John 3:18-19)
"Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them" (Romans 1:32)
"And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be loosed from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them" (Rev 20:7-9)

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AZPaul3
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Message 1740 of 1864 (910183)
04-18-2023 5:37 PM
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04-18-2023 5:24 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Just like earlier with Kleinman. Your sky is what color?

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