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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, I told everyone that the book has both Biblical and
Historical proof. And, lots of it. If you don't want to check it out, don't. If your library doesnot have it, they can borrow it from another library for you. But, you will only be allowed to keep it for two weeks no renewals. Two week is nowhere nearly enough time to fully graspand verify the book's content. I don't believe that any proof would convince you. Youhave determined that you are going to believe a certain way, regardless of what you experience. I feel sorry for you. I really do. I know for certain thatyou have a major awakening coming. My best advice is to cause no one else to stumble.College professors do this often. To cause someone to stumble and fall away from God could have serious consequences. Paul states in Romans 1 that those professingthemselves to be wise (worldly standard) become fools. If I thought that it would do you good, I would showyou more proof, but your mind is made up. Dredge believes strongly in God. I am trying to help him.I am not looking for gotcha points.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Give up. You're flogging a dead horse.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
"Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? ... Drive out the wicked person from among you (1Cor 5:12-13)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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You have to choose - whose words will you follow Paul's or Jesus' own?
It's a commandment from Jesus, your god. Best get it right eh?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: And yet you don’t offer any evidence at all for any of the three claims. Probably because you know how laughable this “proof” is,
quote: Of course that isn’t true of me, but it’s exactly what you’re doing here isn’t it?
quote: You mean like espousing ridiculous nonsense and trying to blame God for it?
quote: Since you haven’t shown any proof - or even evidence - for any of the three claims then I guess that means that you don’t have any.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
You dont know how to "get it right" - your understanding of Christianity is infantile.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
No, dum-dum - you don't have to choose. The words of Paul are the words of Christ ... Christianity 101.
You have to choose - whose words will you follow Paul's or Jesus' own?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
How do you reconcile Jesus' commandment to love others - regardless of their "proclivities" - with Matt 18:15-17 (see below), where Jesus instructs his followers to expel (excommunicate) unrepentant sinners from the Church? Jesus is commanding YOU to love others. No exceptions for race, religion, gender or proclivities. Even your enemy. "If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." (Matt 18:15-17)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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So you have Jesus Christ himself - a god - in his own words commanding you to love everybody even your enemies, and you have a guy called Paul who never even met Jesus, giving you a few exceptions to this commandment years later.
And you choose to ignore the love commandment and choose the hate message instead. Interesting gamble. Good luck with it.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
You dont seem to understand the difference between
hating what queers do and
hating the person.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Dredge writes: You dont seem to understand the difference between hating what queers do and hating the person. A very old and tired defence of the ignorant prejudiced, but if you're confident that your Lord and Saviour, can look into your mind and see nothing of hatred for the “queers” that you wish to “weed out”, then fine, it's your soul not mine that will be judged.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sorry, but I don't buy your kindergarten version of Christianity.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Dredge writes: Sorry, but I don't buy your kindergarten version of Christianity. It's not me you need to be apologising to, you believe that you will be judged on your words thoughts and deeds not me. It's your soul at stake not mine. Good luck explaining you horrible prejudices to your all knowing maker. Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read it?" He answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbour as yourself." He said to him, "You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live." But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, "Who is my neighbor?"— Luke 10:25–29, World English Bible[4] Jesus replies with a story:Jesus answered, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he travelled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the host, and said to him, 'Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.' Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbor to him who fell among the robbers?" He said, "He who showed mercy on him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise." — Luke 10:30–37, World English Bible[5]Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Yes ... and likewise, if a queer is injured or sick, it is my Christian duty to care for him ... even if he has AIDS as a result of his abominable sexual perversion.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Dredge writes: Yes ... and likewise, if a queer is injured or sick, it is my Christian duty to care for him ... even if he has AIDS as a result of his abominable sexual perversion. Your Saviour asks more of you though doesn't He? He asks not just that tend begrudgingly to his physical needs, He asks that you love him. Your God will know what you really think, and lawyer, if you can't fool me, what chance of fooling your Christ? You condemn yourself with your own words.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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