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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2795 of 2932 (905777)
02-03-2023 11:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 2792 by Kleinman
02-02-2023 12:49 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: vimesey couldn't explain it to anyone....
I'd be happy if he could explain to you the difference between grandparents and cousins. But that seems to be beyond your understanding. Edited by ringo, .
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2807 of 2932 (905826)
02-04-2023 11:08 AM
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Reply to: Message 2799 by Kleinman
02-03-2023 1:12 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: Try attributing the quote correctly, silly tenderfoot.
My apologies to vimesey. I think he, and everybody else, recognizes an honest mistake, as opposed to the deliberate stupidity that you revel in.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2808 of 2932 (905828)
02-04-2023 11:10 AM
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Reply to: Message 2800 by Kleinman
02-03-2023 1:12 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: Theodoric is slow of understanding.
There's nothing wrong with taking your time to understand something. You should try it.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2812 of 2932 (905864)
02-04-2023 1:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 2809 by Kleinman
02-04-2023 12:17 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: You still can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail....
Not to you, no. You aren't even capable of understanding the difference between grandparents amd cousins.
Kleinman writes: Does ringo think that Theodoric can explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail?
If he has taken the time to learn it in the past or if he takes time to learn it in the future, I'm sure he can. I'm also sure he will not be distracted by any of your nonsense. And I am sure he knows the difference between his grandparents and his cousins.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2814 of 2932 (905927)
02-05-2023 1:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 2813 by Kleinman
02-04-2023 1:21 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: Not to anyone, tenderfoot.
To anyone but you.
Kleinman writes: Theodoric knows as much about the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail as the tenderfoot does...
He probably knows more than I do. But the advantage we both have is that we are capable of learning. You are not.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2816 of 2932 (905942)
02-05-2023 2:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 2815 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 2:31 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: You have no explanation of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
You don't understand the explanation because you don't understand the simplest principles.
Kleinman writes: You confuse indoctrination with learning. You have been indocrtinated.
So, indoctrination is yet another thing you don't understand. Come back when you can explain the difference between grandparents and cousins. Maybe then somebody will take you seriously.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2815 by Kleinman, posted 02-05-2023 2:31 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2818 of 2932 (905950)
02-05-2023 3:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 2817 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 3:14 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: I understand what indoctrination is.
You really don't. There's no indoctrination in knowing the difference between grandparents and cousins. If you knew the difference, you wouldn't be afraid to explain it.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2820 of 2932 (905960)
02-05-2023 3:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 2819 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 3:32 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: You are indoctrinated and you are silly.
Nobody cares about your opinion. Show us that you know something.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2819 by Kleinman, posted 02-05-2023 3:32 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2822 of 2932 (905963)
02-05-2023 4:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 2821 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 3:59 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: You have already shown that your indoctrination overcomes your ability to learn.
Nobody thinks that but you. Try not to lose the plot. Remember that YOU are the one who is trying to sell YOUR ideas to us. So YOU are the one who needs to show us that you know something. Anything.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2821 by Kleinman, posted 02-05-2023 3:59 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2824 of 2932 (905982)
02-06-2023 10:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 2823 by Kleinman
02-05-2023 4:53 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: Then explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski experiments.
As I have said before, that's way over your head. You need to understand some simple basics, such as the difference between ancestors and relatives, before you can go on to more complex concepts. Answer my question first, then we'll move on.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2823 by Kleinman, posted 02-05-2023 4:53 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2826 of 2932 (906000)
02-06-2023 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 2825 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 10:57 AM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: You must have missed these links:
Your links are garbage. Kishony doesn't agree with you. Lenski doesn't agree with you. And no wonder. You know nothing about the subject. Tell us the difference between ancestors and relatives. Tell us the difference between grandparents and cousins.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2829 of 2932 (906020)
02-06-2023 12:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 2827 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 12:08 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: The peer reviewers wouldn't agree with you, tenderfoot.
There was no peer review.
Kleinman writes: And where did you read that Kishony and Lenski don't agree with me?
You said it yourself.
Kleinman writes: Your delusions are exposed.
Only in your deluded mind.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2827 by Kleinman, posted 02-06-2023 12:08 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2832 of 2932 (906035)
02-06-2023 1:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 2831 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 12:59 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: And where did you read that Kishony and Lenski don't agree with me?
ringo writes: You said it yourself.
Silly tenderfoot, post that quote, you won't
I asked you to show where Kishony and Lenski (and Desai, oh my!) agreed with your (mis)interpretation of their experiments. Did you not admit that they never agreed with you? If they did agree with you, go ahead and show us now.
Kleinman writes: You are the confused tenderfoot telling us you are related to fecal bacteria.
We all are, including you. YOU are confused about the difference between grandparents and cousins. Are you EVER going to work up the courage to show us that you understand the difference?
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2831 by Kleinman, posted 02-06-2023 12:59 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2835 of 2932 (906040)
02-06-2023 1:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 2833 by Dredge
02-06-2023 1:28 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Dredge writes: Brainwashed by con-men masquerading as scientists.
Your brain, being too small to wash, produces nothing of value.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2836 of 2932 (906041)
02-06-2023 1:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 2834 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:31 PM
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Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes: Kishony and Lenski know of my papers but they have never commented on them publicly.
Exactly what I said. They don't agree with you. You're in a dicey situation here. You keep mentioning Kishony and Lenski and Desai (oh my!) and at the same time you have to try to maintain your idiotic fiction that biologists know nothing. It' a wonder they knew which end of a test tube to use. So how can you rely on their data?
Kleinman writes: You are such a sad tenderfoot.
Luckily you keep me laughing.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2834 by Kleinman, posted 02-06-2023 1:31 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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