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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1510 of 2932 (901592)
11-12-2022 7:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 1506 by Kleinman
11-12-2022 7:39 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
So, still denying evidence, what a surprise. The only thing you have accomplished in your life is peddling bullshit.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1512 of 2932 (901595)
11-12-2022 8:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 1511 by Kleinman
11-12-2022 7:55 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
What does this have to do with whole genome sampling?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1514 of 2932 (901597)
11-12-2022 8:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 1506 by Kleinman
11-12-2022 7:39 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: You think that chasing bugs around demonstrates your scientific rigor. Well, you are not qualified to judge that, but I think it's fun and it taught me to identify thousands of species by sight. Plus I have supplied thousands of specimens for molecular sequencing.
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: No wonder you can't explain the Kishony and Lenski experiments. I have no reason to explain them, they are irrelevant to everyone but you, and apparently you can't explain them either.
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Physics and mathematics are foreign subjects to you. If I can't figure a subject out, luckily I have smart friends who can explain it to me.
Go chase some bugs, that's all you are good for. At least I know how sex works and that it doesn't violate 2LoT.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1516 of 2932 (901601)
11-12-2022 11:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 1515 by AZPaul3
11-12-2022 9:09 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
At least he's chasing something real not the bs fantasy you are fumbling all over. And he still has no chance of explaining the patterns of ERVs, because he can't even figure out how to search for patterns in large data sets. He even thinks fossils are the work of Gypsies.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1518 of 2932 (901603)
11-12-2022 11:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 1517 by AZPaul3
11-12-2022 11:07 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
It has been entertaining.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1544 of 2932 (901641)
11-13-2022 12:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 1524 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 8:51 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: AZPaul3 writes: At least he's chasing something real not the bs fantasy you are fumbling all over.
Tanypteryx writes: And he still has no chance of explaining the patterns of ERVs, because he can't even figure out how to search for patterns in large data sets. He even thinks fossils are the work of Gypsies.
You are too stupid to realize you are not random sampling. Oh nice deflection! Next Kleinman the Bullshitter will show us how the Gypsies create fossils in the middle of rocks.
Message 1539Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: They certainly don't make UCD possible and the idea that there are 100s of thousands of these in the human genome is nonsense. That's as smart as the idea of junk DNA. That was a really smart idea of biologists. So that's your evidence, personal incredulity? I note that you have presented no evidence to refute the pattern of ERVs found in many genomes of sexually reproducing species. Not one single paper, nothing... At least there are papers showing that some of what was called "junk DNA" decades ago has functions, but nothing showing that ERVs have been mistakenly identified. And no one, not one single person has said or implied that ERVs make UCD possible. The pattern of ERVs is the evidence that inheritance happens and that all life is related, not the cause, but obviously one of the consequences of UCD. And YOU have presented NO counter evidence and you will NEVER be able to explain the pattern of ERVs that are observed and obvious in the genomes of living organisms. Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: That's as smart as the idea of junk DNA. That was a really smart idea of biologists. One of the standards of science that has always fascinated me is that "when presented with evidence that contradicts current views, science has no choice but to modify the theory to include the new observations."
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1548 of 2932 (901645)
11-13-2022 1:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 1522 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 8:48 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Yeah right, you understand the second law of thermodynamics like you understand how biological evolution works and that is no understanding. At least I know how sex works and that it doesn't violate 2LoT.
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: These are the simplest examples of biological evolution and you have no idea how they work. And you have no idea how sexual reproduction works.
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Go chase some bugs, that's all you are good for. Go calculate the square root of zero, that all you are good for.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1549 of 2932 (901646)
11-13-2022 1:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 1547 by ringo
11-13-2022 1:11 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Science doesn't deal in "proof". Don't you know ANYTHING about science? Well, he has given us proof that he doesn't know anything about science. 
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1550 of 2932 (901647)
11-13-2022 1:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 1526 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 8:53 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Why would a dope like you find it entertaining not to do the physics and mathematics of biological evolution? What I find entertaining is that you cannot do the physics and mathematics of sexual reproduction.
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: You are a failure in your own subject. So far we haven't seen you or your subject succeeding.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1558 of 2932 (901662)
11-13-2022 2:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 1553 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 1:46 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
So, you still have no evidence refuting the patterns of ERVs in the genomes of sexually reproducing species. We can all see you flailing, Bullshit Peddler.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1560 of 2932 (901664)
11-13-2022 2:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 1557 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 1:54 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Tell us how sexual reproduction makes UCD possible, this should be entertaining. Tell us how sexual reproduction works, this should be entertaining.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1565 of 2932 (901669)
11-13-2022 2:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 1564 by Kleinman
11-13-2022 2:26 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
So, still nothing but bullshit. Not a single paper refuting the ERV data. You are flailing.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1625 of 2932 (901758)
11-14-2022 1:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 1607 by Stile
11-14-2022 11:41 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Just tell me who hurt you. Biologists and other smart people.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1637 of 2932 (901770)
11-14-2022 1:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 1619 by Kleinman
11-14-2022 12:30 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman the Bullshitter writes: Taq writes: If all you can do is call people stupid then you have no argument.
You are a whiner and you are stupid. Why do you lie when you claim to have done the mathematics of descent with modification? You are not only stupid, but you are also a liar. The irony of your lack of self awareness is on display for all to see.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 1657 of 2932 (901796)
11-14-2022 4:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 1653 by Dredge
11-14-2022 3:16 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Sludge writes: ringo writes: Science doesn't deal in either proof or belief.
So, science can't prove that UCD is a fact ... funny that. ALL the evidence supports UCD. You YECs are all the same, no understanding of the concept of supporting evidence.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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