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Author Topic:   HaShem - Yahweh or Jehovah?
Nighttrain
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Message 11 of 164 (161584)
11-19-2004 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by arachnophilia
11-19-2004 5:36 PM


And done very nicely, may I say

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Message 12 of 164 (161594)
11-19-2004 7:06 PM


Leaving aside Kamal Salibi`s claim (The Bible Came From Arabia), I find his discussion of the origins of Yahweh fascinating. Whether Yahweh came from a pantheon of gods or no, his explanation of onomastics and metathesis in Semitic languages has opened up new lines of thought in my fuzzy brain. Pity he wasn`t refuted on a more serious level instead of the knee-jerk assaults that took place.

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Nighttrain
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Message 84 of 164 (165803)
12-07-2004 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by Firebird
12-06-2004 11:22 PM


Re: Translations and Assumptions
Having studied with JWs for twelve months, I wouldn`t trust any conclusion they came up with. In spite of convincing them of the fallacy of a lot of points of their beliefs, the following week they would be on song again. And that figure of 25,000 sexual assaults just won`t go away.

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Nighttrain
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Message 93 of 164 (166883)
12-10-2004 4:31 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by arachnophilia
12-08-2004 1:37 AM


Re: Translations and Assumptions
The NWT is a poisoned well. It fails far more than two tests. While JWs may point out a scripture in a KJV version for comparison with the same in the NWT, they never tell you of the many key scriptures they have tampered with. In spite of the blurb inside the covers about consulting many bibles, it`s still the old dogma. Since the Governing Council says it`s God-guided, why then so many footnotes?

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Nighttrain
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Message 105 of 164 (168838)
12-16-2004 7:08 AM
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12-16-2004 4:14 AM


Re: Translations and Assumptions
Hi, Arach, help me out here. If the Tetragrammaton is too sacred to pronounce, why are so many Jewish names and expressions using the short form 'Yah'? E.g. Elijah, Nehemiah,Netanyahu, Jehosaphat?

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Message 108 of 164 (169182)
12-16-2004 10:09 PM


Did Yhwh develop from Yah? Here are some examples of early usage on inscriptions.
http://www.lib.byu.edu/~imaging/negev/Names.html

  
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Message 127 of 164 (210796)
05-24-2005 6:49 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Asteragros
05-23-2005 11:42 AM


Re: Transliterating Bible names
With the help of the Masorah we have now a solid base to support the reliability of the Hebrew Bible text.
Since the Masoretic Text sprang from the Academy at Jamnia (circa 100 A.D.) which selected one from a number of versions, can we assume that they had something approaching the original? While a lot of the Qumran Scrolls approximated the tradition of the later MT, many do not.

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