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Author Topic:   Jar's belief statement- Part 2
randman 
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Message 134 of 250 (337021)
07-31-2006 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by GDR
07-31-2006 4:20 PM


Re: Towards ending confusion?
The infant is sinful, but the sin is not imputed. Note Paul's statement: "I was alive without the law once."
So despite sin being present, the infant is spiritually alive and blessed with a real communion with God's presence or life on some level (being "alive without the law"). But the Law shows the growing child the reality of his or her sinfulness and so sin causes separation and spiritual death necessitating rebirth in Christ, walking in the kingdom of God.
I believe thus that the Christian child can grow up in the kingdom and so a precise "born-again moment" is unnecessary.
I think the special aspect of life we see in children "of such are the kingdom of God" is because despite their sin, it is not imputed and they are spiritually alive even in the Christian sense. In fact, I think people fail to recognize that some of the energy and life they feel growing up is the presence of God's Spirit.

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Message 137 of 250 (337033)
07-31-2006 7:19 PM
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07-31-2006 6:59 PM


Re: Towards ending confusion?
Ringo, I think you go too far. It's still a sin, but depending on the situation, it may not be imputed.

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Message 139 of 250 (337047)
07-31-2006 7:56 PM
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07-31-2006 7:54 PM


Re: What is a sin?
I didn't say God would impute the sin, but just because sin is not imputed does not mean something is not a sin.

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