Jar's belief statement- Part 2

Hi jar,What's your opinion....do you think more people will go to heaven than not?Just wondering...

I realized that, I was just wondering what your thoughts were. I think more will go than not too but I don't think it is becuase there are more non-believers. I just don't think its that complicated, like you promote, its pretty simple. And I agree with you that it isn't easy, but I don't think His expectations are too high for the majority of us to succeed.Thanks for sharing.ABE:What about that whole narrow is the path to heaven thing?Edited by Catholic Scientist, : note ABE

That's a good take on it, I like it.I always took it to mean that there won't be very many people getting into heaven, which I disagree with, so it was something I've wondered about.

Customs

Oh, I dunno.I only thought of it because you were asking for something like a tollbooth where we'll be questioned and no payment is needed. I just thought it seemes like customs. I've never considered Judgement to be like customs before you brought that up. But now that i think about it, it is kinda like customs because they decide if they're gonna let you in the country or not. They just use different reasons for the filter. More like "Whats you reson for comming in and what will you be doing?" type of thing. WRT heaven, no one questions why people want to go in or what they'll do, its just whether or not you are allowed in from what you've done before you got to the door. I think customs might do something like that too though, like a background check, and not letting criminals into the country, yeah? But still, there's some differences between Judgement and customs, although I think they are closer thatn Judgement and a tollbooth.

Yeah, that's the one. Its a quote from Jesus, right? Well, I said in Message 100:

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I think more will go than not too but I don't think it is becuase there are more non-believers. I just don't think its that complicated, like you promote, its pretty simple. And I agree with you that it isn't easy, but I don't think His expectations are too high for the majority of us to succeed.

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Plus, it kinda turns god into an asshole if he sends most of the people he created to hell.Also, maybe I disagree because it is more comforting to believe that its easier for me to get into heaven.I don't like to disagree with Jesus, though, which is why I've always wondered about that line. I always figured I wasn't understanding it correctly in the interpretation that it means that less people get into heaven than don't. I like the interpretation that jar provided that it could be describing how the judgement will be on a an individual level so the gate is narrow, exept, in the quote you provided it specifically says few will get in.I'll have to read the whole chapter to really know how I feel about it. Thanks for supplying the info.

Absolutely. lol, I dunno. I think I'm gonna have to read the Bible and think about it....when I have time. (I'm at work right now o.O)

But if god makes the standard so high that most people can't pass it then he is being mean about it. I think he should remain just, but I don't think the standard is set that high. I think if we just be good then everthing will be alright. The assholes do choose to be bad so I get what your saying, but I'm not a determinist so I do have some trouble with why YOU think this way. WRT determinism, the asshole don't really have a choice to be bad so this makes god look like an even bigger asshole. Thats a poop analogy. Car journeys ARE very dangerous. As far as the journey being 80% successful, that depends on whether or not I have an affect on this. Can I increase the chances by driving safetly or is it that there's an 20% chance of a tire popping (something have no control over). If I have no control over it then you're right that I wouldn't take the chance, but if I was in control then I would take it. Make sense? Which gospel? What are you talking typing about? Sure. That's an interesting and respectable perspective but I disagree.I was shown the gate very early in life and had no trouble finding it. The difficulty is in passing the customs, when I choose to go against god. I've found that I am a good person and when I add this to my faith in Jesus I realize that I am going to go to heaven. No problem.

You can have sin and not be damned. Being born into sin isn't as bad as being born damned, IMO.

There's always Goddidit but what about hyperdecomposition?