I dont concern myself with the issue of whether it was three days or two. I don't let myself get caught up in minor areas of scriptural interpretation because I am not trying to defend one church's interpretations nor attack another. I simply believe that Jesus died and rose from the dead. (or was raised by His Father.) Personally I believe that Jesus is God. I believe that He was and is His Fathers human character. The rest of the interpretation is simply semantics.
You are limiting the Creator of all seen and unseen, present in every hypothetical multiverse and dimension that exists to a position in spacetime. Thats your error.
Jesus is God. He is God in the sense that He is representative of Gods thinking. There is simply no way that anyone can understand the mind of the OT God, for example, without knowing the character of Jesus. Hence they are not two seperate characters. Jesus IS Gods character. Not Buddha. Not any of the Hindu deities. Not Allah. and certainly not any joke such as a spaghetti monster or wannabe god fearing pastor. (or church)
It is true that there is One church. And it is true that there is one God. Ask Jesus. He never said He was God, but He *did* say that if you've seen Him you have seen the Father. He *did* say that "I and my Father are one." Never for a minute did He pray to Himself. Thats what people essentially do these days in secular America.
ringo even accuses me of doing it because he says I "make up the Jesus that I want" and then pray to Him. In other words I worship my comfort and entitlement more than I do the Jesus Who actually is. Even as a believer, I am scared of giving everything up. Critics would say that either my belief is weak or that I am not really a believer.
suck it up buttercup. There are more people in the forum than just you. If you don't want to watch the video, please ignore it. And don't quote forum rules at me. Percy knew better than to make your grumpy ass an administrator.
And if you are really curious about what the 3 men are saying you can always click the transcript.
The Meaning Of Identity[qs]f you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolve over
f you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolve over time to become a different animal such as a cat then It is totally up to you to prove it.
They already believe that a man can self identify as a woman and that we all must respect it. We were created in the image of God. They want to change that. They want us recreated in the image of the human. But not Jesus. They killed Him. (WE killed Him, but He foreknew it would happen) A Man can evolve into a God IF they self identify as such.
Good old Yankee Ingenuity. And why must you, a Christian, keep reemphasizing the bad things done in the name of Christ?
Can you make a list of the good things? (Of the U.S.) The whole world is as guilty as the Christians. As the Americans. Quit trying to tear down the West. The replacement will be worse.
So I suppose that you agree with ringo... in that I should give it all up and follow Jesus as an old broke man with no entitlement and no retirement savings.
But its ok for the progressive liberals to drive their volvos and fly on their jets in the glorious name of humanist global equality. You fail to see the antichrist spirit at work in this age.
And I have learned a thing or two about money since we last talked. Time will tell who understands it better.
The Guardian:When groups feel threatened, they retreat into tribalism. When groups feel mistreated and disrespected, they close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them.
In America today, every group feels this way to some extent. Whites and blacks, Latinos and Asians, men and women, Christians, Jews, and Muslims, straight people and gay people, liberals and conservatives – all feel their groups are being attacked, bullied, persecuted, discriminated against.(...)This – combined with record levels of inequality – is why we now see identity politics on both sides of the political spectrum. And it leaves the United States in a perilous new situation: almost no one is standing up for an America without identity politics, for an American identity that transcends and unites all the country’s many subgroups.
It used to be that the Laft and Right agreed on a national identity and common cause. This is not true any more.
I feel that you emphasize the political and carnal elements of the church and downplay the spiritual disciplines that made them unified within their clubs.
What I mean is this. GOD had 1 (only) begotten son. Jesus was essentially Gods essence and character in the flesh.(According to my beliefs.)
Jesus had 12 disciples. 12 disciplines, 12 characters. As the church grew, it produced teachers who spread the discipline of the narrative that was Christianity.
Each Disciple was a character unto themself. They were also strongly linked in character and common union (communion) with their teacher(Disciple) who taught them. As an example, if you had Peter as a teacher, you would learn about the Spirit of the living God through the character, behavior, and discipline of Peter. You would get the good and the bad, but you could rest assured that your teacher knew the character of his teacher (Jesus)without compromise.
As years went by, the strength of the passed down character naturally grew more diluted, compromising and less like the originator.(Jesus) What I believe has kept the church from totally disintegrating and splitting apart is the Holy Spirit. The comforter whom Jesus originally sent. It is this glue that keeps the church strong.
You acquired your character from your parents and Joe Wood, as well as the Socratic teachers whom you had. I would maintain that not all of your teachers had the same character, which is both good and bad. It is good because Christians are all unique. It is bad because spurious beliefs from other sources of character crept into the teaching and diluted and corrupted Jesus original message. There is, after all, only one Jesus. Critics may argue that the human element is relative among humans and thus we can ALL be teachers. I would counter that by saying that our source is God...not humanity.
Talk more about character of a Christian. What good is a Christian if their many teachers were many differing beliefs? I know what you are going to say, by the way.
Granted you can believe that, but Jesus was most certainly male. The female in this dogmatic yet symbiotic union is the church herself.
Or you could start your own female based religion starring Lady Wisdom (Sophia)
Granted there is neither male nor female in heaven, according to the book. Granted also that the society of that day and time were patriarchal. Basics, jar.
You likely want an opportunity to reemphasize one of your pet beliefs--namely that religion originated with humanity. If thats all you want to say, all I can say is been there done that. And though I would agree with your claim, I would also disagree. Perhaps we can again start with the Nicene Creed, since you claim to be a Creedal Cradle Christian.
candle2: I agree with you on some points and disagree with you on others. Perhaps you can comment at my new post, When Fascism Comes To America. I oppose Socialism on the grounds that it is against getting ahead. It seeks to tax everyone enough to 1) Pay the Bills. 2) Help the poor, even those who don't work nor want to work. I'm more for free enterprise and the opportunity to get ahead. Anyway, here is where I disagree with you:
candle2 writes:
Everyone knows that the Liberal News Networks are as hard core Democrats as any Democrat politician out there. My question is how can anyone expect to hear the truth from them?
I would be cautious at lumping "them" together, unless you are talking of a Socialist Agenda. I think that the Conservatives need to fight expanding socialism beyond what we already have. In addition, I disagree with the idea that schools can supercedee parents in the education of their children.
candle2 writes:
Black men are more than a dozen times more likely to shoot a police officer than the other way around.
That sounds suspicious to me. I don't buy it. Where did you get the data?
anyone that does not know the difference should not be allowed to vote.
That sounds rather Fascist. Too authoritarian for my blood.
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