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Dredge
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Message 1246 of 1864 (906597)
02-13-2023 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1241 by AZPaul3
02-13-2023 5:57 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
APauling666 writes:
But you spread the poison of religion in humanity. You do evil. It must be opposed and, eventually, ended.
Good luck with your demonic mission.
"I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" - Matt 16:18

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Dredge
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Message 1247 of 1864 (906598)
02-13-2023 9:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1239 by AZPaul3
02-13-2023 4:13 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
APauling666 writes:
Your cults have produced nothing but blood terror and torture throughout all of human history. 
Liar.
The Vikings were ruthless and bloodthirsty raiders and looters until Catholic missionaries converted them to Christianity.
South Pacific Islanders were head-hunting cannibals until Catholic missionaries converted to Christianity.
The natives of Sth America practised human sacrifice until Catholic missionaries converted them to Christianity.
Those are just a few examples.
You tell lies bcoz you do the will of your father, the devil, who is "a liar and the father of lies"
(John 8:44)

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AZPaul3
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Message 1248 of 1864 (906599)
02-13-2023 9:44 PM
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02-13-2023 9:33 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Piker. Those are far too little far too late.
The Deadliest Religious Conflicts In History Explained
Your side of the ledger is orders of magnitude bloodier than anything you can cite in mitigation.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 1249 of 1864 (906600)
02-13-2023 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1247 by Dredge
02-13-2023 9:33 PM


Historical facts not christian propganda
Liar.
Actually you are the liar or woefully ignorant.
The Vikings were ruthless and bloodthirsty raiders and looters until Catholic missionaries converted them to Christianity.
The behavior of the Norse did not change after becoming christian. Many of them did not become christian because of missionaries or some sort of enlightenment, but because their king required it. Back then people were of the religion of their ruler.
quote:
Though the Viking Age would end and the Norse warrior ethos eventually cool as Scandinavia became more like the rest of Europe, the Christian Vikings of the 10th and 11th century did not behave much differently than their Pagan counterparts. They were still extraordinarily warlike and about as likely to plunder, take slaves, have multiple wives, engage in blood feuds, and display other typical features of Vikings anywhere. They were just as daring in exploration. Some of the most savage, intrepid, and successful Vikings – like Harald Hardrada, Amlaib Cuaran, Sytric Silkenbeard, Leif Erikson, and Cnut the Great – were Christians by choice.
Viking values of total commitment in battle and placing glory over life itself also did not change. Clear evidence of this can be found in the Battle of Clontarf (Ireland, 1014) and in the Battle of Stamford Bridge, (England, 1066) in which mixed-faith Viking armies chose annihilation rather than dishonor and suffered casualty rates of 80-90 percent. These battles, and the others like them, showed that for the Vikings it did not really matter whether they were going to Heaven or Valhalla.
The Vikings and Christianity | History of Christian Vikings – Sons of Vikings
South Pacific Islanders were head-hunting cannibals until Catholic missionaries converted to Christianity.
Please provide some sort of historical evidence for these head-hunting cannibals.
The natives of Sth America practised human sacrifice until Catholic missionaries converted them to Christianity.
Yes, ritualistic human sacrifice stopped after the Spanish took over, not because of conversion but because of the power of the Spanish. Then non ritualistic human sacrifice was carried out by the Spanish as they killed tens of millions of people intentionally and unintentionally.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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jar
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Message 1250 of 1864 (906603)
02-14-2023 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1249 by Theodoric
02-13-2023 10:55 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
No one has ever done genocide more efficiently and effectively than Christianity although the US runs a close second.

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candle2
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Message 1251 of 1864 (906605)
02-14-2023 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1244 by dwise1
02-13-2023 8:54 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Dwise, you tell me. What you mean by evolution.
I believe in variety within a species. If you wish to call
that evolution, then so be it.
I believe that variety is by design-built in.
Let me put this in simple terms:
If you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolve
over time to become a different animal such as a cat then
It is totally up to you to prove it.
It is not my responsibility to disprove it.
You do not convince someone by calling them dishonest
and untruthful.
I am being completely honest when I say that I do not
believe in macro-evolution.
If I believed in it, I would not deny it. That would make no
sense
The part about poison was in response to AZ calling
Christians poison. No need to work yourself up over it.

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Phat
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Message 1252 of 1864 (906607)
02-14-2023 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1251 by candle2
02-14-2023 11:18 AM


The Meaning Of Identity[qs]f you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolve over
f you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolve
over time to become a different animal such as a cat then
It is totally up to you to prove it.
They already believe that a man can self identify as a woman and that we all must respect it. We were created in the image of God. They want to change that. They want us recreated in the image of the human. But not Jesus. They killed Him. (WE killed Him, but He foreknew it would happen) A Man can evolve into a God IF they self identify as such.

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Phat
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Message 1253 of 1864 (906608)
02-14-2023 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1250 by jar
02-14-2023 7:33 AM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Good old Yankee Ingenuity. And why must you, a Christian, keep reemphasizing the bad things done in the name of Christ?
Can you make a list of the good things? (Of the U.S.) The whole world is as guilty as the Christians. As the Americans. Quit trying to tear down the West. The replacement will be worse.

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candle2
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Message 1254 of 1864 (906609)
02-14-2023 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1243 by AZPaul3
02-13-2023 7:45 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
AZ, I am not forcing Phat to believe a certain way.
Whereas Liberals control 95% of the media; all of
Hollywood; the music industry; our schools and
universities; big tech; industry; the FBI & CIA; and,
most everything else.
Small kids in our schools are being bombarded with
transgenderism; drag queens; and, liberals teachers
using pronouns such as they, them, when speaking of
themselves.
I enrolled at Murray State in 2000 when I was 47 years
old. I sold much of my antique bottle collection in order
to pay for it.
I wanted to help people so I enrolled in Social Work.
I was told that I would not be required to advise anyone
seeking abortion or homosexuality assistance.
During my final semester I was told that in Social Work
I would now be required to help those seeking abortions,
and those needing assistance with their homosexuality.
I was also required to write a paper on how to get more
females enrolled at Murray State.
My research clearly showed that female enrollment at
that time was just under sixty percent.
My paper pointed out that it was actually males who
needed our assistance.
I also pointed out that many young boys were being
raised by single mothers who were inadequate in
teaching them to be young men.
This isn't all but I was told that I would never work in
Social Work in West Kentucky.
I only wanted to do good, but they wanted me to agree
to their agenda.
A recent poll of Americans who hated themselves shows
there is only one group who thought this way.
That group consists of White Liberals.
Liberals are as close to Nazism and Communism as any
group or political party can get.

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jar
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Message 1255 of 1864 (906611)
02-14-2023 2:51 PM
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02-14-2023 12:26 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
The Christianity of today is showing all of the very worst traits of Christianity in the past.
Someone needs to remind Christians that they are behaving as evil demons.

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Message 1256 of 1864 (906613)
02-14-2023 3:18 PM
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02-14-2023 12:37 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
candle2 writes:
Liberals are as close to Nazism and Communism as any
group or political party can get.
When all else fails, just name call. Conservatives continue to try and divide this nation.

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Phat
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Message 1257 of 1864 (906614)
02-14-2023 3:22 PM
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02-14-2023 2:51 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
So I suppose that you agree with ringo... in that I should give it all up and follow Jesus as an old broke man with no entitlement and no retirement savings.
But its ok for the progressive liberals to drive their volvos and fly on their jets in the glorious name of humanist global equality. You fail to see the antichrist spirit at work in this age.
And I have learned a thing or two about money since we last talked. Time will tell who understands it better.

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Message 1258 of 1864 (906615)
02-14-2023 3:26 PM
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02-14-2023 3:22 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
Phat writes:
So I suppose that you agree with ringo... in that I should give it all up and follow Jesus as an old broke man with no entitlement and no retirement savings.
I think you should do what you want. However, if you claim to follow the teachings of Jesus your description is pretty close to the truth.
But its ok for the progressive liberals to drive their volvos and fly on their jets in the glorious name of humanist global equality. You fail to see the antichrist spirit at work in this age.
It has more to do with religious beliefs than political identity. I would tell liberal Christians the very same thing I told you.

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Message 1259 of 1864 (906616)
02-14-2023 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1256 by Taq
02-14-2023 3:18 PM


Identity Politics ©
Taq writes:
Conservatives continue to try and divide this nation.
Thats funny. We say the same thing about liberals and identity politics. How America's identity politics went from inclusion to division
The Guardian:
When groups feel threatened, they retreat into tribalism. When groups feel mistreated and disrespected, they close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them.
In America today, every group feels this way to some extent. Whites and blacks, Latinos and Asians, men and women, Christians, Jews, and Muslims, straight people and gay people, liberals and conservatives – all feel their groups are being attacked, bullied, persecuted, discriminated against.(...)This – combined with record levels of inequality – is why we now see identity politics on both sides of the political spectrum. And it leaves the United States in a perilous new situation: almost no one is standing up for an America without identity politics, for an American identity that transcends and unites all the country’s many subgroups.

It used to be that the Laft and Right agreed on a national identity and common cause. This is not true any more.

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Theodoric
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Message 1260 of 1864 (906618)
02-14-2023 4:04 PM
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02-14-2023 3:42 PM


Re: Identity Politics ©
Written by Amy Chua to promote her latest book. So not really by The Guardian is it? Chua is right wing law professor known for her controversies more than her legal opinions.
Her argument is that we shouldn't make the haters feel bad because it makes them even more bigotted. Bullshit, name and shame.
BTW she and her husband have been disciplined by Yale University for inappropriate behavior with students. Relevant? I think if you speak about the behavior if others you better be able to justify your own behavior

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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