Summations Only

Dredge, I have several quotes from Catholic leaders that
I will be showing. Actually, I have dozen, but it will not
require that many to make my point.James Cardinal Confessions, The Faith of our Father's
88th Ed., pp89."But you read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and
you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification
of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious
observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify."Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd Ed., p.174"Question: Have you any way of proving that the Church
has the power to institute festivals of precepts?"Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have
done that in which all modern religionists agree with
her.She could not have substituted the observance of
Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of
Saturday, the 7th Day of the week, a change for which
there is no Scriptual authority."The woman riding the scarlet colored beast in Rev. 17
is the same as the 2nd beast in Rev. 13 (who appears
like a lamb,, but speaks as a dragon vs.11), which is the
same as the little horn in Daniel 7.The little horn in Daniel 7 vs. 25 speaks great things
against the most High. The little horn kills the saints
of the most High.Notice that the woman in Rev 17 has daughters. The
daughter churches that came out of her, but they still
retain many of her false doctrines.Also, and this is extremely important, she thinks to
change times and laws-which she has done.The RCC is the only church that fits. In fact, it is the
only church that is remotely close.

Dredge, could you tell me the reason(s) the RCC
replaced the 7th Day Sabbath with Sunday?Also, do you think that all these denominations switched
from the 7th Day Sabbath to Sunday because they agree
that the RCC had the authority to order the switch?

Dredge, I read the article, and I would like to comment
one at a time.1Corinthians 16:1-2 "Now concerning the collection for
the saints, as I have given order to the churches of
Galatia, even so do ye.""Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay
by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be
no gatherings when I come."These two verses address the issue of the saints
(Christians) in Jerusalem, who were enduring an
extended famine.The collection was for them. It was not a tithe for the
Church.Paul was asking for more than money. He also wanted
food items. Such as dried meats; fruits; and, vegetables.Some of these items needed to be harvested and
prepared, which required manual labor.In other words, Paul was asking them to do the manual
labor on Sunday, which was nothing more than a
common work day.

Dredge, this is in response to Colossians 2:16-17.
It reads:"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or
in respect of an holiday, or of the new moon, or of the
Sabbath days.""Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body
is of Christ."Paul was addressing a heresy by false teachers, who
had wormed their way into the church at Colosse.They were introducing their own religious philosophy,
which was deceiving the Colossian Christians.The false teachers were steeped in ascetism. They
believed that denying the body would bring them
spiritual enlightenment.It is important to note (verse 13) that the majority of
Colossian Christians were Gentiles.They were enforcing their man-made doctrines upon the
Christians at Colosse.Vs. 21 "Touch not; taste not; handle not.The Christians at Colosse were observing the holy days
and Sabbaths in a joyous and festive manner.
Sabbaths are feast day. They ate and drank in gladness.Notice that "meat" in vs. 16 is from "brosis," which refers
to the act of eating. It has absolutely nothing to do with
the kind of meat/food.Also, new moons are not holydays. They are the method
in which to keep track of the holydays.Vs.16 says to let no one judge you in respect of these
days.The Colossian Christians had respect for the holydays
and the Sabbath days.Paul said not to let the ascetic philosophers judge them.Verse 17 states that these holydays and Sabbaths are a
shadow of things to come.They are not shadows of things done away with.Paul advised the Christians at Colosse to focus their
energy on Christ, and not the false teachers.Paul admonished the Christians not to let anyone spoil
them through philosophy and vain deceit, after the
tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and
not after Christ.Nowhere does the Bible refer to the holydays and
Sabbaths as "rudiments of the world."Paul observed the Sabbaths and holydays, as does my
Church.The holydays outline God's plan of salvation for us.

Dredge, the RCC also rely on Acts 20:7 to show that
Sunday is the new worship day, replacing the seventh
day SabbathActs 20:7 "And upon the first day of the week, when the
disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached
unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued
his speech until midnight."The assumption is that "to break bread" is synonymous
with the Lord's Supper.Furthermore, they assert the this was a Sunday-go-to-
meeting in which they broke bread, which signifies that
they observed the Lord's Supper.However, the Lord's Supper is nothing but the Passover
meal.Passover always begins in the evening on the 14 day of
Nissan. And, the feast of unleavened bread begins the
very next day.These are fixed dates.Notice in Luke 22:14 "And when the hour was come, He
sat down, and the twelve Apostles with Him."15. "With desire I have desired to eat this Passover with
you before I suffer."In verses 17-19 Jesus gave them wine and brake bread,
which represented His shed blood and His body.Instead of roasting a lamb without blemish, Jesus
replaced it with wine that represented His blood and
unleavened bread that represented His body.But, make no mistake, this was the Passover meal. And,
It is observed once a year on the 14th of Nissan.It is important to notice verse 6, where it is recorded that
this particular "first day of the week" was shortly after
the days of unleavened bread.This signifies that Passover had just passed; thereby,
Paul and the other disciples did not meet to partake of
the Lord's Supper (Passover), but to eat a meal.there are many examples in the NT where the expression
"Break bread" was equated with eating a meal.Acts 2:42, 46; Matthew 14:19 & 15:36; Mark 6:41; 8:6, 19.
also Luke 9:16.Bread was not sliced at that time. One would simply
break a piece off.Paul and the other disciples met shortly after sundown
on Sunday, which we would equate as Saturday on our
calenders.Remember that God's day began at the going down of
the sun.Paul was leaving the next day. They got together to hear
him speak; also, to eat a meal, which verse 11 stated
that they did.It is interesting that in the daylight hours on this first day
of the week, Paul walked 18-19 miles to reach Assos.This was not a rest day for him.

AZ, I'll be the kettle; Dredge must ask the RCC who/what
he will be; and, of course, you will be Dylan Mulvaney.

Dredge, are you aware that besides the weekly Sabbath
that Lord has sanctified seven annual Sabbaths.These annual Sabbaths are referred to as High Days,
Sabbaths, or Holy Convocations.Leviticus 23 has them listed in order.These annual Convocations require a sacred assembly in
addition to forbidding servile work.The "Feast of Trumpets" is even called a Sabbath-verse 24.Notice that the first day of the "Feast of Unleavened Bread"
takes place on the 15th, the day after Passover, which
takes place on the 14th.The day after Passover, when Jesus was sacrificed
(1 Cor. 5:7) was an annual Sabbath, or as John stated in
John 19:31 a "High Day."There were two Sabbaths occurring in the week that
Jesus was crucified. One annual, one weekly.The annual Sabbath occurred two days before the
weekly Sabbath.In Mark 16:1 we read that the women bought spices
and prepared them after the Sabbath had passed.Luke 23:56 states that the women left the sepulcher
and prepared the spices and then they rested on the
Sabbath--according to the Commandment (the 4th).It takes time to steep spices and to prepare the spices
for burial. The women did have not the time to prepare
the spices after leaving the sepulcher on the day Jesus
was murdered.After leaving the sepulcher the women rested on the
annual Sabbath (Thursday). The next day (Friday) the
women prepared the spices. Then they rested on the
weekly Sabbath (Saturday).Notice that when the women reached the sepulcher on
Sunday morning, while it was still dark, Jesus had
already risen (John 20:1). Of course He had, late on
Saturday evening, just about the time that the sun was
going down.The Pharisees in Matthew 12: 38 asked Jesus for a sign
that He was the promised Messiah. They wanted a
miraculous sign.In verse 40, Jesus promised them a sign."For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the
whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and
three nights in the heart of the earth."The sign was the "amount if time" that Jesus was the
promised Messiah.If it were less than three days and three nights Jesus is
not the Savior. If it were more than three days and three
nights He is not the Savior.The Word "and" is from "kai." It has a copulative effect as
well as a cumulative effect. Which signifies that is serves
as a connecting word. And that it increases by
successive additions.Kai also means in addition, too, then, also.The Word "so" is from "houto." It's definition is
"In this way, or manner," referring to what
precedes or follows.The Bible also states that Jesus would rise on the third
day. It also states after three days.The term "on the third day" limits the resurrection to a
time span of 48 to 72 hours."After three days" limits the time to no less than 72
hours. After means accomplishment.The only amount of time that fits both criteria is 72
hours exactly.

Dredge, you ask "says who" in reply to Jesus coming out
out of the tomb late Saturday evening.The Bible state clearly (without the slightest hint of
ambiguity) that Jesus would remain in the tomb for
three days and three nights.He was placed in the sepulcher a little before the going
down of the sun on Wednesday (AD 31. Passover fell on
a Wednesday that year.The next day, Thursday, was an annual Sabbath. Just
before the sun set that evening would be 24 hours.Friday evening would be 48 hours-2 night and 2 days.
Just before sunset on Saturday would be three days
and three nights--72 hours. Just as Jesus said.Your problem Dredge is that you believe men in robes
more than you do the words of Jesus.Do you actually know the terrible history of the RCC?
Or does it even matter to you?

Dredge, I want to talk about the "sign" of God vs the
"mark" of the beast. The mark belongs to both the
first and second beasts in Rev. 13.In Ex. 31:13-17 God states the Sabbath is a sign (an
identifying mark, beacon, evidence) between me and
the children of Israel forever.The 10 northern tribes of Israel disregarded the Sabbath
of God. Eventually they were forced from the land of
Israel by the Assyrians.The Israelites lost the very sign (Sabbath keeping) that
identified them. The majority of Israelites no longer know
that they are Israelites.The Jews, however, still observe the Sabbaths. Their
identity has not been lost.The tribe of Manasseh, of which I am from, migrated
into Scotland, and many into North America, especially
the United States.The United States is the great nation promised to
Joseph's eldest son, Manasseh. Genesis 48 & 49.Joseph's youngest son, Ephraim, settled in England, and
have migrated to places such as Canada, Australia,
New Zealand, Wales, etc.... Genesis 48 & 49.Joseph's two sons received the birthright blessings. The
Jews received the promise that the Messiah would come
through them. Judah possess the birthright scepter.The royal family in Great Britain are direct descendants
of Kind David. The royal family are Jews, but they reside
among Ephraim.The Stone of Destiny (Jacob's pillowstone is now in
Scotland. When King Charles is coronated the Stone
will be placed inside a partition in the royal throne.The throne, which is occupied, will be the very throne
that Jesus sits on when He returns to set up His
Kingdom.The prophet Jeremiah brought the only surviving daughter
Of king Zedekiah to Ireland. She was placed among a
colony of Jews, where she became a Queen.God made a promise to David that someone would always
sit on his throne.Sorry, I got off track.I thought I had time to type all I wanted, but they want
me to feed the dogs and other animals. it is pagan
Easter, and I don't observe it.The Apostle to the Jews was Peter. Not for certain but
the Apostle to Manasseh is probably Peter's brother
Andrew. There is one Apostle for each tribe.

Dredge, I am not concerned with Armstrong. What I can't
prove myself o will not believe.You cannot prove from the Bible any doctrine that the
RCC espouses. I find it extremely reckless to place your
faith in a church that has nothing in common with the
church Jesus established.Do you honestly believe that God could not keep His
promise to David that his throne would always have a
descendant of his sitting on it.It is possible to trace the routes of the Israelites after the
Assyrians had conquered them.The northern tribes of Israel had been removed from
their land for well over 130 years before Judah fell to
Babylon.Anyone who believes that all Israelites are Jews needs
psychological help. And I am serious about that.The Bible states that each Apostle would be placed over
a separate tribe of Israel (in the kingdom).You place your faith in men who would not spit on you if
you were on fire. Yet, you criticise those who believe that
the Bible contains all the information one needs to build
a close relationship with God.

Paulk, all Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are
Jews. Jews refer to Israelites that are descended from
Judah; Jacob's 4th son.The very first time that the word Jew is used in in 2 Kings
16:6. Verses 5-6 clearly states that Syria and Israel united
in a war against the Jews.After the death of Solomon the northern tribes revolted
against Rehoboam.Israel rejected God's Sabbaths. And, they turned to
worshipping pagan god's, even building altars to them.The Lord sent the Assyrians against Israel. Assyria
conquered Israel in roughly 722 BC, and deported them
from Samaria.The Assyrians deported Israel and replaced them with
people from Babylon, Cuthah, Ava, Hamath, and
Sephardic, as well as a few others.You can read this in 2 Kings 17: 23-24.2 Kings 17:18 "Therefore the Lord was very angry with
Israel, and removed them out of His sight: there was
none left but the tribe of Judah only.Israel became so wicked that the Tribe of Benjamin
reunited with Judah 1Chr. 11:1, 13-14. Also, the priestly
tribe of Levi left Israel and joined Judah.The Northern nation of Israel still had 10 tribes. Joseph
received a double share, through his sons Ephraim and
Manasseh.See Genesis 48. Not only that, but more than any of the
other, they received the name Israel.Now, you or any one else on here can crush me, simply
by showing me in the Bible where Israel ever reunited
with the Jews. Or, show me where they came back to
Jerusalem.Jeremiah states in 3:6-11 that Judah was more
treacherous than Israel. The main reason being that
Judah should have learned from Israel's example.However, God did not cast Israel away forever. He had
and still has plans for her.Isaiah 14:1"For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and
will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and
the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall
cleave to the house of Jacob.Amos 9:9 "For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house
of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a
sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright by J.H.Allen.The book has all the references listed. There is no way
that I can reference it all. But this book has certainly
convinced me. As has God.

Dredge, God has a sign that is displayed by those who
love Him.Deuteronomy 6:1-8 verse 1 & 2 God commands us to
keep His all His Commandments, statutes, and
judgements.Verse 8 "And thou shall bind them for a sign (evidence,
mark, beacon) upon thine hand, and they shall be as
frontlets between thine eyes.Deuteronomy 11:13-18 God state that He will give us
great blessings if we honor His Commandments.Verse 18 "Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in
your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign
upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between
your eyes.We are to agree with them, and we are to obey them.
Our hands are not to work on the SabbathExodus 3:13-17 states that the Sabbath is a sign between
Israel and God. It is a perpetual Commandment. Even
Gentiles who become spiritual Israelites are to keep it.It is fairly easy for the world to see who does and doesn't
obey the 4th Commandment.In Daniel 7, we see that the beast (Roman Empire and the
RCC) kill the saints of God. They speak great things
about the most High.Speaking great things about the most High is blasphemy.Also, both beasts think to change times and Laws.Both Rome and the RCC killed those Christian who kept
faithful to God's Sabbaths.Rome worshipped the Emperor as a God. Likewise the
popes were worshipped as being God's direct
representative on earth. People bowed to both of them.Sunday (the day of the sun) is their mark. They have
admitted this hundreds of time.It is their "mark of authority." Deceived people wear this
mark as a badge of servitude.Many Christians who remained faithful to God's
Commandments, especially the 4th were forced to
go underground or to recant.So-called holy men in robes had Christian who would not
deny their faith, and who would not accept the mark
(Sunday) tortured and killed.Many were thrown to the lions, had limbs chopped off or
worse.Some were tightly bound and one of their leg placed on
a fire until they either recanted or died.Still others were impaled on stakes and set on fire in
order to provide light at extravagant parties.These action were performed by both Rome and the RCC.Rev. 13 states that this mark will soon be forced on
everyone.This time the false prophet will perform great miracles
that will cause all to worship both him and the beast
(the leader of the 10 kings).God can prevent anyone from being deceived if they will
truly seek Him with all their heart.However, many of His followers will be put to death.
These are those who have the strongest faith. It will
take someone of immense faith not to fold.Those who are put to death will be a great testimony for
God. The dignified manner in which they accept death
will convince others that they were right.In Daniel 7, this end-time beast power is prophesied to
rule for 3 and a half years.In Rev. 13 the time given is 42 months. They are one and
the same.One should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.

Paulk, I told everyone that the book has both Biblical and
Historical proof. And, lots of it.If you don't want to check it out, don't. If your library does
not have it, they can borrow it from another library for
you. But, you will only be allowed to keep it for two weeks
no renewals.Two week is nowhere nearly enough time to fully grasp
and verify the book's content.I don't believe that any proof would convince you. You
have determined that you are going to believe a certain
way, regardless of what you experience.I feel sorry for you. I really do. I know for certain that
you have a major awakening coming.My best advice is to cause no one else to stumble.
College professors do this often. To cause someone
to stumble and fall away from God could have
serious consequences.Paul states in Romans 1 that those professing
themselves to be wise (worldly standard) become
fools.If I thought that it would do you good, I would show
you more proof, but your mind is made up.Dredge believes strongly in God. I am trying to help him.
I am not looking for gotcha points.

Dredge, why do Catholics place all their faith in
"Catechism of the Catholic Church," which directly
contradicts the Bible in nearly every doctrine?The Bible condemns idol worship; yet, the RCC bows to
the pope; to statues (especially of Mary); and, to other
icons that the RCC revere.Anyone who doesn't believe this can "Google" hundreds
of images showing this to be true.The Bible tells us to not only forgive those who wrong us,
but to pray for them.John Wycliffe printed the Holy Bible into English, which
was a big no-no to the ever tolerant Catholic Church.Imagine that! A man who wished for people to be able
to read the words of God themselves.This was a great sin in the eyes of the church leadership
in Rome. We all know why.44 years after the death of John Wycliffe the RCC dug up
his bones and ground them into powder. Then they
burned the powder until all traces were gone.Any decent human being would consider this the actions
of a church ruled over by Satan, not one following the
precepts of God, who commands us to love thy neighbor
as thyself.The inquisition, which was spearheaded by the RCC, is
estimated to have took the lives of anywhere from tens
of thousands to hundreds of thousands.One was forced to recant their religious beliefs or
tortured and killed. They were ordered to switch to the
doctrines of the RCC.Anyone loyal to God's Sabbaths were the church's
primary targets. One was forced to accept the "mark" of
the RCC (beast), or to die for remaining true to God.This will happen one more time.The 30 year war (1618-48) had more than 8,000,000
casualties, when Ferdinand 2, the Holy Roman Emperor
attempted to force Catholicism on all citizens.The HRE is the first beast. The RCC is the second beast
In Rev.13The RCC is an image of the HRE. They both rule from the
top down. The "mark" of both is Sunday, and both the
head of the HRE and RCC are/were revered as gods.

Dredge, CCC, paragraph 969 states that Mary is an
advocate. Helper, benefactress, and mediatrex of all
graces.According to the RCC, God will not listen to prayers not
offered through Mary.1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator
between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.1 John 21 states that Jesus is our Advocate (intercessor)
with the Father. Not Mary.The CCC and the Bible disagree on this. One is right and
one is wrong.CCC, paragraph 499 states that Mary is a perpetual
virgin, that Christ's birth did not diminish His mother's
vaginal integrity but sanctified it.According to the RCC, Mary never had sex with her
husband, Joseph.Matthew 13: 55-56 states that Jesus had at least four
brothers and two sisters.Matthew 1:25 clearly states that Jesus was Mary's
"firstborn" son-not her only son.Furthermore, it states that Joseph knew her not until she
had brought forth her first son.He did not have sex with her until after the birth of Jesus.Joseph and Mary had the same emotions as all of us do.
God designed sex, not only for procreation, but for
enjoyment between a husband and wife.Sex between a husband and wife is nothing to feel shame
about.