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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
AZ, I'll be the kettle; Dredge must ask the RCC who/what
he will be; and, of course, you will be Dylan Mulvaney.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, are you aware that besides the weekly Sabbath
that Lord has sanctified seven annual Sabbaths. These annual Sabbaths are referred to as High Days,Sabbaths, or Holy Convocations. Leviticus 23 has them listed in order. These annual Convocations require a sacred assembly inaddition to forbidding servile work. The "Feast of Trumpets" is even called a Sabbath-verse 24. Notice that the first day of the "Feast of Unleavened Bread"takes place on the 15th, the day after Passover, which takes place on the 14th. The day after Passover, when Jesus was sacrificed(1 Cor. 5:7) was an annual Sabbath, or as John stated in John 19:31 a "High Day." There were two Sabbaths occurring in the week thatJesus was crucified. One annual, one weekly. The annual Sabbath occurred two days before theweekly Sabbath. In Mark 16:1 we read that the women bought spicesand prepared them after the Sabbath had passed. Luke 23:56 states that the women left the sepulcherand prepared the spices and then they rested on the Sabbath--according to the Commandment (the 4th). It takes time to steep spices and to prepare the spicesfor burial. The women did have not the time to prepare the spices after leaving the sepulcher on the day Jesus was murdered. After leaving the sepulcher the women rested on theannual Sabbath (Thursday). The next day (Friday) the women prepared the spices. Then they rested on the weekly Sabbath (Saturday). Notice that when the women reached the sepulcher onSunday morning, while it was still dark, Jesus had already risen (John 20:1). Of course He had, late on Saturday evening, just about the time that the sun was going down. The Pharisees in Matthew 12: 38 asked Jesus for a signthat He was the promised Messiah. They wanted a miraculous sign. In verse 40, Jesus promised them a sign. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in thewhale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." The sign was the "amount if time" that Jesus was thepromised Messiah. If it were less than three days and three nights Jesus isnot the Savior. If it were more than three days and three nights He is not the Savior. The Word "and" is from "kai." It has a copulative effect aswell as a cumulative effect. Which signifies that is serves as a connecting word. And that it increases by successive additions. Kai also means in addition, too, then, also. The Word "so" is from "houto." It's definition is"In this way, or manner," referring to what precedes or follows. The Bible also states that Jesus would rise on the thirdday. It also states after three days. The term "on the third day" limits the resurrection to atime span of 48 to 72 hours. "After three days" limits the time to no less than 72hours. After means accomplishment. The only amount of time that fits both criteria is 72hours exactly.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
candle2 writes:
For more than 2000 years, Christianity has accepted and taught that the Resurrection occurred on Sunday ... but apparently all those fools got it wrong and you know better.
Notice that when the women reached the sepulcher onSunday morning, while it was still dark, Jesus had already risen (John 20:1). Of course He had, late on Saturday evening, just about the time that the sun was
Says who?
going down.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
candle2 writes:
Jesus died on Friday and was resurrected on Sunday ... that's only two days. You have no idea where the third day is, do you?
In verse 40, Jesus promised them a sign. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, you ask "says who" in reply to Jesus coming out
out of the tomb late Saturday evening. The Bible state clearly (without the slightest hint ofambiguity) that Jesus would remain in the tomb for three days and three nights. He was placed in the sepulcher a little before the goingdown of the sun on Wednesday (AD 31. Passover fell on a Wednesday that year. The next day, Thursday, was an annual Sabbath. Justbefore the sun set that evening would be 24 hours. Friday evening would be 48 hours-2 night and 2 days.Just before sunset on Saturday would be three days and three nights--72 hours. Just as Jesus said. Your problem Dredge is that you believe men in robesmore than you do the words of Jesus. Do you actually know the terrible history of the RCC?Or does it even matter to you?
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, I want to talk about the "sign" of God vs the
"mark" of the beast. The mark belongs to both the first and second beasts in Rev. 13. In Ex. 31:13-17 God states the Sabbath is a sign (anidentifying mark, beacon, evidence) between me and the children of Israel forever. The 10 northern tribes of Israel disregarded the Sabbathof God. Eventually they were forced from the land of Israel by the Assyrians. The Israelites lost the very sign (Sabbath keeping) thatidentified them. The majority of Israelites no longer know that they are Israelites. The Jews, however, still observe the Sabbaths. Theiridentity has not been lost. The tribe of Manasseh, of which I am from, migratedinto Scotland, and many into North America, especially the United States. The United States is the great nation promised toJoseph's eldest son, Manasseh. Genesis 48 & 49. Joseph's youngest son, Ephraim, settled in England, andhave migrated to places such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Wales, etc.... Genesis 48 & 49. Joseph's two sons received the birthright blessings. TheJews received the promise that the Messiah would come through them. Judah possess the birthright scepter. The royal family in Great Britain are direct descendantsof Kind David. The royal family are Jews, but they reside among Ephraim. The Stone of Destiny (Jacob's pillowstone is now inScotland. When King Charles is coronated the Stone will be placed inside a partition in the royal throne. The throne, which is occupied, will be the very thronethat Jesus sits on when He returns to set up His Kingdom. The prophet Jeremiah brought the only surviving daughterOf king Zedekiah to Ireland. She was placed among a colony of Jews, where she became a Queen. God made a promise to David that someone would alwayssit on his throne. Sorry, I got off track. I thought I had time to type all I wanted, but they wantme to feed the dogs and other animals. it is pagan Easter, and I don't observe it. The Apostle to the Jews was Peter. Not for certain butthe Apostle to Manasseh is probably Peter's brother Andrew. There is one Apostle for each tribe.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sadly, you've been deceived by Herbert W. Armstrong - a false teacher and false prophet who was also notoriously anti-Catholic. I know his teachings bcoz I used to attend one of his fake churches many years ago ... when I was blind and stupid enuf to swallow his poisonous nonsense.
Armstrong thought he was serving God, but the fool was actually serving the devil ... as do his gullible and lost followers.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dredge, I am not concerned with Armstrong. What I can't
prove myself o will not believe. You cannot prove from the Bible any doctrine that theRCC espouses. I find it extremely reckless to place your faith in a church that has nothing in common with the church Jesus established. Do you honestly believe that God could not keep Hispromise to David that his throne would always have a descendant of his sitting on it. It is possible to trace the routes of the Israelites after theAssyrians had conquered them. The northern tribes of Israel had been removed fromtheir land for well over 130 years before Judah fell to Babylon. Anyone who believes that all Israelites are Jews needspsychological help. And I am serious about that. The Bible states that each Apostle would be placed overa separate tribe of Israel (in the kingdom). You place your faith in men who would not spit on you ifyou were on fire. Yet, you criticise those who believe that the Bible contains all the information one needs to build a close relationship with God.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
candle2 writes:
Seriously bizarre. Anyone who believes that all Israelites are Jews needspsychological help. And I am serious about that. The Bible states that ...
Shut up. You place your faith in men who would not spit on you if you were on fire.
Seek profession help. Your brain is broken. The reason so many people think you're mentally ill ... is that you're mentally ill.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Given the nonsense you post this is obviously false. You can’t prove any of the following - to list a few - because they are fantasies
The tribe of Manasseh, of which I am from, migrated into Scotland, and many into North America, especially the United States.
The royal family in Great Britain are direct descendants of Kind David. The royal family are Jews, but they reside among Ephraim.
The prophet Jeremiah brought the only surviving daughter Of king Zedekiah to Ireland. She was placed among a colony of Jews, where she became a Queen. Message 1641
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
And the truly batshit crazy expect us to take them seriously even though they have no evidence other than their rants.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
No reputable historian supports Armstrong's historical fantasies. Embarrassing.
Armstrong's nonsense is right up there with other fairy-tale histories told by fruit-cakes like Mormons and Scientologists. Embarrassing. Your fake church and your fake Christianity are built on the delusions of a madman. Embarrassing.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Nothing wrong with a prejudice based on facts. It's a fact that more than 90% of the sexual-abuse-of-minors cases in the Catholic Church involve queers molesting boys.
Putting aside the disgusting prejudice displayed in your statement
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Tangle Member Posts: 9512 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Dredge writes: Nothing wrong with a prejudice based on facts. The wrong is in your obvious homophobic hate and the inference that all homosexuals are child abusers.
It's a fact that more than 90% of the sexual-abuse-of-minors cases in the Catholic Church involve queers molesting boys. It's also a fact that 90% of the sexual-abuse-of-minors cases in the Catholic Church involve the clergy. I also note your indifference to the institutional cover-up.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Er, no; you're confused ... the wrong is not being "homophobic". Being "homophobic" is a virtue. I don't trust anyone who isn't "homophobic". The wrong is in your obvious homophobic hate There's nothing wrong with hating what faggots do, which is sick, shameful and a form of bestiality.Is it any wonder those disgusting freaks fall victim to so many horrible diseases? and the inference that all homosexuals are child abusers.
The inference is all yours ... although now that you mention it, I do recall reading somewhere that the probability of a queer molesting an under-age boy is statistically hundreds of times greater than the probability of a normal (ie, hetero) man molesting an under-age girl. Please be advised that your low standards of morality, your wilful ignorance and your reluctance to face facts are not my fault.
I also note your indifference to the institutional cover-up.
On the contrary, I would much rather see the Church's fag clergy get sent to jail than Church leaders covering up their sick crimes.
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