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Topic: Choosing a faith
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1527 of 3694 (903203)
12-06-2022 10:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 1526 by Tangle
12-06-2022 10:27 AM
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Re: Doing My Homework
As I stated on another thread. Utter lack of self-awareness.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1535 of 3694 (903322)
12-08-2022 1:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1533 by Percy
12-08-2022 10:08 AM
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Re: What does God want of Us
He'll be back in 6 months after he deals with his crisis of faith and thinks he has another whizbang argument, that will in actuality be a retread of his same old tired argument. There will probably be new people he will not respond to, like me.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1564 of 3694 (903548)
12-12-2022 10:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 1563 by Percy
12-12-2022 8:00 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
Neither Eddy nor Boyd are historians. They are fundamentalist Christians that are attempting to turn theology into history.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1573 of 3694 (903635)
12-14-2022 4:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 1572 by Percy
12-14-2022 3:59 PM
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Re: How can ultimate purpose come from anyone else, especially a God?
I really like snarky Percy.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1592 of 3694 (903782)
12-16-2022 3:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 1578 by GDR
12-15-2022 7:51 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
What he does say is that the S on the M was a compilation of things that Jesus said but is not a stand alone sermon.
Based upon what? What original sources does he use to justify this proclamation?
Also Bauckham contends that the Gospel is either directly written by Matthew or more likely from material supplied by Matthew.
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Matthew who? Where was he born? What else did he write? What historical sources attest to who he was?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1593 of 3694 (903783)
12-16-2022 3:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 1581 by Phat
12-16-2022 8:01 AM
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Re: Staying In Our Field
Atheists have no spokesperson. The only thing we have in common is a disbelief in gods. We do not belong to a cult.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1594 of 3694 (903784)
12-16-2022 3:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 1590 by GDR
12-16-2022 2:30 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
No they do not use scientific methodology. They make stuff up out of whole cloth. It is indisputable that there is no contemporary historical evidence for a Jesus Christ. None, zip, nada.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1595 of 3694 (903785)
12-16-2022 3:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 1591 by GDR
12-16-2022 2:59 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
As you know I contend that the Gospels were much earlier.
Contend all you want. What counts is evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1609 of 3694 (903986)
12-19-2022 10:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 1608 by GDR
12-19-2022 7:34 PM
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Re: How can ultimate purpose come from anyone else, especially a God?
Richard Bauckham wrote a a long book with a great deal of detailed evidence as to the authors of the Gospels.
He had no evidence, because there is no evidence. He had assertions a suppositions. Those are vastly different things.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1612 of 3694 (904085)
12-21-2022 5:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1611 by GDR
12-21-2022 5:01 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
There isno evidence. If there is, present it.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1624 of 3694 (904172)
12-22-2022 8:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 1623 by GDR
12-22-2022 8:03 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
You don't even know what apologetics is? Wow!! Apologetics | Catholic Answers
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1632 of 3694 (904220)
12-23-2022 12:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 1626 by Phat
12-23-2022 6:08 AM
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Re: What does God want of Us
It is not evidence!!!!
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1635 of 3694 (904253)
12-23-2022 5:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1634 by Tangle
12-23-2022 4:28 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
What you're doing is apologetics
And not very well.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1643 of 3694 (904302)
12-26-2022 6:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 1642 by GDR
12-26-2022 4:36 PM
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Re: How can ultimate purpose come from anyone else, especially a God?
Evidence has nothing to do with proof. Evidence is evidence. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1647 of 3694 (904339)
12-27-2022 10:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 1646 by Tangle
12-27-2022 4:30 AM
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A person of goodness
Instead of using the vile and evil Mother Teresa as an example of goodness(which she was not), let's find someone else. Rosa Parks? Jimmy Carter? Nelson Mandela?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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