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Topic: Choosing a faith
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1898 of 3694 (905513)
01-28-2023 10:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 1891 by GDR
01-28-2023 5:13 PM
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Re: What's Important enough?
No, no, no. Atheism is a lack of belief. I have no belief that there is no god. Others say it better than I can.
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Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.
Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as “a belief that there is no God.” Clearly, theistic influence taints these definitions. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as “there is no God” betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read “there are no gods.”
What is Atheism? - American Atheists If you want to resort to arguing by dictionary, bring it on.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Re: What's Important enough?
Hey, hey, hey. I love baseball. Not the MLB, or any professional sport, but sandlot and up to college I will still watch.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Re: What's Important enough?
Same here I was indoctrinated as a catholic. At about 13 or so I started to realize none if it made sense. Oh I tried. The more I tried the more I realized it was all bullshit and most people know it is bullshit but are to afraid to say or do anything.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1911 of 3694 (905575)
01-30-2023 8:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 1909 by GDR
01-30-2023 8:34 PM
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Re: What's Important enough?
WTF does Santa represent? Ok you have gone from the ridiculous to even more ridiculous. You have never been at sublime.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1929 of 3694 (905625)
01-31-2023 9:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 1927 by Phat
01-31-2023 8:36 PM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
You are still clueless.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1939 of 3694 (905652)
02-01-2023 5:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 1932 by Phat
02-01-2023 10:02 AM
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Phat trolling again
Who the fuck is talking about reparations? If you don't follow or understand the context of a conversation and topic how about you don't put in your two cents and drag it off topic. If you want to address what I actually commented maybe I will reply, but probably not. Sick of trolls here.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1963 of 3694 (905712)
02-02-2023 12:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 1946 by Phat
02-01-2023 11:36 PM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
You really are an entitled POS.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1964 of 3694 (905713)
02-02-2023 12:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 1949 by Phat
02-02-2023 12:34 AM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
All of those services get cut but right wingers, like you. All of you on the right want the poor to suffer even more.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1965 of 3694 (905714)
02-02-2023 12:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 1950 by Dredge
02-02-2023 12:40 AM
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Re: I Again Think GDR has Given Up On This Thread
How does it feel to have your arguments regularly shot down in flames by the village idiot, whose IQ is only 9?
As it never happened he wouldn't know. Maybe you could share some examples where you thought it happened.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
I would have told Phat to go fuck himself. You are much more restrained than I am.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1967 of 3694 (905716)
02-02-2023 12:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 1961 by ringo
02-02-2023 11:49 AM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
Surprisingly, I think he lies to himself more than he does to us. At least just as much.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1972 of 3694 (905726)
02-02-2023 2:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 1971 by dwise1
02-02-2023 2:23 PM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
That is his real name. His fathers name was Creflo Augustus Dollar Sr.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1976 of 3694 (905731)
02-02-2023 3:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 1975 by Phat
02-02-2023 2:42 PM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
I have at times taken a few kids into my house that needed to be fed and did not expect them to pay. I adopted both my sons. One is 40 the other is 13. Neither has ever paid me for their food or housing. We have taken in other youth that were in a bad place. A friend and his kids lived with us for a while when he lost his lease. No one has to pay. I am glad to share what I have. It gives me self-worth and a good feeling about myself and them. Yes, I also did this years ago when I had little more to share than a roof, a bed and some food. I had more than they did. This is how my parents lived also. They did not have much, but people were welcome at the dinner table and a bed was found if they needed a roof over their head. My parents were nominally Christian, but did not go to church or belong to a church. You are a vile, narcissistic, self-entitled bigot and hater.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1985 of 3694 (905766)
02-03-2023 11:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 1983 by ringo
02-03-2023 11:07 AM
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
It is the right-wing, christianist pecking order view of society. Phat and many religious people get their self-worth by having someone else they perceive as lower than they are. They take the crap they get from above and pass it on down. As long as they think someone is in some sense lower than they are they have worth. This explains a fair amount of the racism, misogyny, and hate for LGBTQ+ we have in this country. This also is part of the reason for anti-intellectualism. Phat and the rest of the rubes have allowed themselves to be convinced that intellectuals are a drain on society. That intellectuals are trying to repress the rubes somehow. They are useful idiots for the billionaire class.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Re: The Spirit Of Sacrificial Giving
I take it to mean that poverty is a moral failure and should be punished.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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