Choosing a faith

The stewardship failed. Seems the influence of that "still small voice" of your god failed all creation yet again.If you believe this "still small voice" guides humanity then you believe it guided us right off a damn cliff. Not the most pleasant of gods.

If God in any way knows and knew the future before it happened, He KNEW we would fail. The whole reason He allowed us to choose to try is because He knew we wanted it that way. Nobody can accuse Him of being evil due to His foreknowledge.Your planet will get wrecked further. Famines and floods. The whole nine yards. And its wrong for end-timers to simply give up and, as dwise1 says, ignore polishing the brass on a sinking ship. We are judged by how much and how hard we try (in the grand scheme of things) and according to the story Jesus and the Saints return just before we make ourselves extinct. Keep trying, nature boy.

Not if we are called to be stewards of the people rather than just the planet and nature.If the planet gets lost, the people do not HAVE to go with it. We just have to keep polishing (and kissing) Brass as long as the Admiral is watching. Carry on, Sailor.

[assume belief]Oh, but we do. He is not just accused of evil, he is shown evil.Ok, so it's not so much the foreknowledge part that is his evil but the bastard's refusal to stop the extreme evil he planned to unleash on the universe. Not a good show.[/assume belief]You are judged by no others than your peers and yourself, Phatman.

No, it is ignoring that "still small voice" that drove us off a cliff. We ignore that voice and listen to the voices of self centredness such as greed, lust, thirst for power and influence etc.Do you wish that the whole project of life on Earth had never been initiated? You can dwell on the many negatives but I would also add that there a great many positives about life in general.

I suggest that a good way to look at that question is to consider free will. I heard this rationalized but it makes no sense. If God knows the future then we don't have free will because the future becomes a closed issue. In order to have free will, the future needs to be open.Using a simple example I would say that God does not know what I will have for dinner next Wednesday. God doesn't know the future because the future is open and therefore is not there to be known.

We, his creation, ignore his voice? Again, that is by his choice, right? If he hasn't made it clear to the individual that THIS is his voice and not some side quip bubbling up from the sub conscience then that IS his choice, not ours.If he wants to guide us and help us then why the charade?You're saying god installed his holy speakers in us but not a volume control? Or does he set the volume. That's why I hear nothing? That's why the majority of humanity hears nothing (except maybe their own god telling them to kill gay school kids and fly airplanes into buildings)? He has his chosen few where the volume is noticeable? Blaring? But, for some reason, the majority of his creation is not privileged enough and will have to forego the personal guidance of his holy supremeness. Nice inclusive all loving god there.If you believe in this still small voice then why does he knowingly neglect so many ... like me. Why is my existence of no relevance to him? Why are my speakers off?Of course, we know the answers. 'Cuz there's nothing there.You hear the voices. The rest of us don't. When was the last time you saw a pshrync?

In many ways I think that it is actually pretty clear. I'd suggest that all of us essentially believe that the so called "Golden Rule" should be a rule that we should follow. That "still small voice" simply is the voice that prompts us to love by that rule. The problem is though, that even though we know we should live by that guideline, we as often as not simply don't, and there are those among us who ignore it altogether. I have never indicated that personal guidance is only for some. That "still small voice" is for everyone. Firstly I assume that pshrync is a coined word combining psychic and shrink. I have no doubt that there are atheists or Muslims that respond to that voice more consistently than I do.
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Tangle, your problem, and that of other atheists, is that
you lack common sense. You might very well be an
educated individual, but without common sense it is of
little use.The simple cell is more complex that anything that
humans can create. In fact, the cell is as complex, if not
more so than the Milky Way Galaxy.Here are just a few short videos that demonstrate the
complexity of the simple little cell.The inner life of the cell animation.The work horse of the cell kinesin.DNA Animation (2002-2014) by Drew Berry.Your Body's Molecular Machines.Amazing Flagellum: Michael Behe and the Revolution
of Intelligent Design.A Day in the Life of a Motor Protein.These are just a small sampling of the cell's complexity.
I know of better ones but it might take me some time to
remember and locate them.There is no way that atheists/evolutionists can prove
step-by-step how the cell originated from non-living
matter, or even how matter itself just appeared from
nothing.In order for evolutionists to state that evolution is a fact
they must put their money where their mouth is and
replicate the process.You know that you can't. It is lunacy to even suggest
such a crazy concept. It certainly isn't science.Many Atheists admit that humans; the earth; and, the
entire universe convey the appearance of design. And, in
fact, it does.Dawkins admits that there is an appearance of design,
but he refuses to believe in God.He has admitted that there is the possibility that
advanced aliens created life on earth, which is simply
kicking the can down the road.Huxley even admitted that by no means would he accept
a Creator God. He stated that it would interfere with his
promiscuous sexual life.Many so-called atheists seem angry at God. They do not
believe that a loving God could sit idly by while so much
pain and anguish occur day after day. They do not
understand why He allows it.I don't believe that there are many atheists. I honestly don't.
Deep down they realize that life coming from nonlife is
not possible.Furthermore, they know that it is impossible for the
simple little cell to mindlessly maneuver itself into such
mind numbing complexity.King David stated in Psalms 139 that he is fearfully and
wonderfully made.Romans state that it is evident from God's magnificent
handiwork that those who deny His existence are left
without an excuse.The simple cell itself clearly proves a Creator.Speaking of those who deny God, Paul states in verse 22
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.I agree with God's assessment of atheists/evolutionists.

And the problem with you and other fundamental religionists, is that you're all dickheads.Are we good?

Just curious what you mean by the term evolutionist. Would that term include theistic evolutionists, as my understanding an evolutionists is someone who believes in materialistic evolution?

What is materialistic evolution?

The opposite of spiritual evolution.

Nwr, there are a great deal of people who call themselves
Christians that actually refuse to practice what they preach.There are hundreds of Christian denominations. There
are also many beliefs that have nothing to do with
Christianity.There are Muslims; Hindus; Buddhists; Satanists; and,
numerous other religious and spiritual disciplines.The televangelists preach prosperity. They insist that one
lives without wealth because of their lack of faith.Watch just one of these prosperity preacher and he will
do his best to convince you to send him thousands of
dollars.What I see is exactly what I would expect to see from a
world placed under the rule of Satan. For the most part
the world is cut off from access to God.As I have stated several times, God is not trying to save
humanity during this present age. He is only calling out
those who are being asked to rule with Him when He
returns to set up His Kingdom.He will not turn anyone away who diligently seek Him, but
the vast majority want nothing to do with Him.We are all experiencing Satan's way of "get." His way is
based on self-centeredness. It is the exact opposite of
God's way of "give," which is based on )over and
compassion.We will all get to experience both ways.When so called Christians behave badly atheists tend to
blame it on Christ.If someone plays Mazart, and does so badly, is that a
reflection on Mozart or the individual who performs
his work poorly?Christians, as well as all of us, are to be caretakers of
the earth and its environment.God commands us in Genesis 2:15 "to dress and to
keep it."God's Holy Spirit, which is given to those whom He calls,
is the Spirit of a sound mind. It is the Spirit of self-control.The following is one of a prominent televangelist who
insists that the Christians in these videos are under the
power and influence of the Holy Ghost.Kenneth E. Hagin - Drunk in the Spirit, Holy Laughter.Kenneth Copeland & Kenneth Hagin Mighty Annointing
J Unspeakable.What we see is nothing more than the demonic
influence and possession of Kundalini Spirit,
which had its beginning in India.The greatest treasure in the world is to know that
God is pleased with you.1Corinthians 2:9 "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
neither have entered into the heart of man, the things
which God has prepared for them that love Him.

Quite common, like how you undoubtedly preach serving Truth and yet you do so through lies like creationism. Or like your adamant claim to know how life started through supernatural means which you refuse to support.The hypocrisy of so many Christians is very apparent. Estimates are 288,000 gods and 45,000 versions of Christianity.Furthermore, "God", "Jesus", "what the Bible says", "what Christianity and Christians are", etc, are all defined by religion, 45,000 religions in the case of Christianity. So whenever a Christian (of whatever of the 45,000 possible stripes) starts talking about "God" or the like, we must ask the question of "which one?".Of course, 45,000 is an upper limit since we can construct many groupings of versions whose definitions for those buzzwords (which is basically all they are) are close enough to be nearly identical, but many such groupings do still exist (ABE: id est, there are still many groupings of versions of Christianity who disagree, often very widely, with each other about "God", "Jesus", "what the Bible says", "what a Christian is", etc), especially over the question of "what the Bible says" (indeed, we recently saw you not caring one whit what the Bible actually says, but rather cared only for what your religion defines as "what the Bible says".But lowering that upper limit does not help promote commonality of belief because it ignores the exponential explosion of different versions held by individuals based on their own misunderstanding of their particular versions own misunderstanding. After all, it's not one's religion's teachings that one follows and acts on, but rather one's own personal misunderstanding, one's own personal heresy:

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[When you search for God, y]ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy.

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("Der Jehova-Vertrag" by Viktor Koman, 1984)

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Wrong yet again."Christ" has nothing to do with what motivates atheists or turns people into atheists. Neither does "God".Rather, it's the religions that we reject (along with their empty buzzwords like "Christ", "God", etc). They're trying to sell us a bill of goods, a pig in a poke, and we aren't buying it.Plus, applying the Matthew 7:20 Test to the wicked fruit which is the conduct and misconduct of so many Christians proves those religions to be wicked and that they should be cut down and thrown into the fire. Of course, as presented allegedly by Jesus all you need is one bad Christian to disprove Christianity since a good tree cannot produce wicked fruit (OK, that would apply to that particular version of Christianity, but we can safely assume that there exists no version which has never produced wicked fruit). What the hell is that BS supposed to be about? Babbling nonsense again?