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AZPaul3
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Message 1231 of 1864 (906545)
02-13-2023 12:03 PM
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02-13-2023 12:00 PM


Re: Meyer, Lennox, and Behe
The LL think it's just fine and dandy for a mother to murder her own unborn child, for example, but being in any way racist is the worst kind of evil.
Good. You're beginning to understand. This world is not made in your image.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1232 of 1864 (906546)
02-13-2023 12:05 PM
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02-13-2023 11:46 AM


Re: Meyer, Lennox, and Behe
Theodorkic writes:
You are not judged on the quantity of posts but on the quality. Fundies like you and drudge fail to understand that.
On the contrary, I do understand the importance of quality ... that's why all my posts are of the highest quality. In fact, sometimes the quality I produce is actually too high.

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Message 1233 of 1864 (906547)
02-13-2023 12:08 PM
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02-13-2023 12:03 PM


Re: Meyer, Lennox, and Behe
I won't be conforming to your infantile egalitarian fantasy world anytime soon. Sorry.

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Message 1234 of 1864 (906549)
02-13-2023 12:12 PM
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02-13-2023 12:01 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
APauling666 writes:
Any process beyond your intellect to understand is indistinguishable from majik. And our majik is beyond your comprehension.

We have the power to see deep into the past, control the present and forsee the future.
Is your psychiatrist aware that you harbour such "majik" thoughts?

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AZPaul3
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Message 1235 of 1864 (906556)
02-13-2023 12:29 PM
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02-13-2023 12:12 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Is your psychiatrist aware that you harbour such "majik" thoughts?
Yes, of course. She is very familiar with physics and our revelations of reality, past, present and future. They are not deep dark secrets. Even you can learn them. But the first thing you need to do is learn OF them. See our majik with reality happening. That's where your jesus-meat crackers short circuit your intellect and covers your eyes with scales.
Stop with the diseased crackers, Dredge.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Taq
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Message 1236 of 1864 (906559)
02-13-2023 12:46 PM
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02-13-2023 11:47 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Dredge writes:
The evidence of miracles demonstrate that the supernatural exists. You choose to ignore such evidence.
You choose not to present any such evidence.

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Message 1237 of 1864 (906560)
02-13-2023 12:46 PM
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02-13-2023 11:43 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Dredge writes:
Anyone who believes that life arose naturally from inanimate matter believes in magic.
Then how do you think babies are made? What do you think we are made of?

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candle2
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Message 1238 of 1864 (906579)
02-13-2023 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1218 by Phat
02-13-2023 1:42 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Phat, most Jews and Christians misunderstand
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear O Israel: the Lord our God, the
Lord is one."
When we interpret scripture we must consider it all.
Isaiah tells us that we must "take a little here, and a
little there."
God the Father Himself calls the Son God.
Hebrews 1:8 "But to the Son He said, your throne O God
is for ever and ever...."
Psalms 110:1 "The Lord said unto my Lord, sit thou at
my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
These are the same two members of the God family or
God "Kind" spoken of in John 1:1.
"In the beginning was the Word (the 2nd Lord in Psalms
110:1), and the Word was with God (the 1st Lord in
Psalms 110:1), and the Word was God."
Both Lord's in Psalms 110:1 were God.
The same being did not sit on his own right hand.
You say that God is all-powerful (omnipotent),and that
He could find a way to do this. But it still makes no
sense.
Even though God is omnipotent, there are still things
that He cannot do.
For example: He cannot lie; He cannot increase or
decrease in knowledge; He cannot sin; He cannot break
a promise; etc....
The Hebrew word interpreted "one" is from "echad,"
which itself is from "achad."
Echad can have several meanings , such as united; one;
first, as in sequence or importance; alone, together; and
foremost.
The Israelites had just come out of Egypt. The Egyptians
worshipped many gods.
Moses was telling them that God "alone" was God; that
He was first, the highest priority.
Vs.5 "And thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thine
heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."
Read the chapters surrounding 6. Moses discusses the
blessings and benefits if they served only Him.
God alone (echad) was to be Israel's God.
There is no other God apart from the true God, outside
of the God family or God "Kind."
In Genesis 11:6 speaking of the people building the Tower
Of Babel, God said, "Behold, the people is one (echad).
They were united (echad) in their goal and purpose.
Genesis 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and
his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall
be one(echad) flesh."
John 17:21 "That they may be one; as thou father, are in
and I in thee, that they also may be one in us;..."
The Apostles were one (united) in purpose and goal; as
we're the Father and Son.
Concerning the trinity, if someone wants to laugh, read
the Athanasius Creed.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1239 of 1864 (906586)
02-13-2023 4:13 PM
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02-13-2023 3:23 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
I can see you live a rich fantasy life vicariously through the bible. I can hear the emotion, the joy, you seem to experience. I imagine you fantasize standing at the temple door preaching the ancient histories and walking the lands rebuking other priests for heresy.
While I should, on a human level, accept your comfort in your own thoughts, those thoughts are evil for our species. Your cults have produced nothing but blood terror and torture throughout all of human history. Your comfort, your glee in this evil, is akin to the Nazi’s glee closing and locking the doors at Auschwitz.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1240 of 1864 (906589)
02-13-2023 4:31 PM
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02-13-2023 4:13 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
AZ, I am very content with my life. I have a great wife; kids;
and grandkids. I have good friends who are also content
with their lives.
If this bothers you, then you are the one with issues.
I still wish you to be happy and content.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1241 of 1864 (906591)
02-13-2023 5:57 PM
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02-13-2023 4:31 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
I'm happy for you.
I'm sure you're seen as a good guy. But you spread the poison of religion in humanity. You do evil. It must be opposed and, eventually, ended.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1242 of 1864 (906592)
02-13-2023 6:41 PM
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02-13-2023 5:57 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
AZ, I could say that you are spreading the poison of
evolution. And, I do believe that it is poison.
I have been saying that God is a loving God that has the
intent to give eternal life to all who will accept it.
I could be like the majority of churches and say that God
will burn humans in hell fire for eternity, as they scream
in indescribable pain.
You are like most liberals in that you not only want to
control what people say and do but what they think.
You should take a good long look in the mirror and ask
yourself what is so great about you.
You might just find that the answer is "not much."

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AZPaul3
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Message 1243 of 1864 (906593)
02-13-2023 7:45 PM
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02-13-2023 6:41 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
AZ, I could say that you are spreading the poison of
evolution.
You deny reality. That is your evil.
You should take a good long look in the mirror and ask
yourself what is so great about you.

You might just find that the answer is "not much."
Not much at all. I am nothing. Who cares?
Your religious thoughts of ghosts and enforced beliefs in majik poisons the minds of the populous debasing critical thinking leaving a pliant mind that is coaxed toward your evil. You maintain that obedience through fear of death.
You are like most liberals in that you not only want to
control what people say and do but what they think.
The way you are telling Phat what to think?
No, candle2, I want you priests to lose your undue control over minds in society.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1244 of 1864 (906595)
02-13-2023 8:54 PM
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02-13-2023 6:41 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
AZ, I could say that you are spreading the poison of
evolution. And, I do believe that it is poison.
What the hell are you talking about?
WHAT poison? Define it! Describe it! In sufficient detail to make some sense!
Of course, in order to do that you would need to know what evolution is. Rather difficult for you since you have already repeatedly demonstrated that you have no clue what evolution is.
So you will need to answer the question that no creationist has dared to even try to answer: What do you think that evolution is? And (assuming that you believe that it somehow conflicts with your religion) why specifically do you believe that it conflicts with your religion? (AKA "conflicts with God")
Until you know what evolution is, you cannot know what its consequences are ramifications could be. And until you know those consequences and ramifications, you cannot know whether it would be a "poison".
And until we know what your honest and truthful answers to those questions are (despite honesty and truthfulness being completely alien to creationists), we cannot know what the hell you are talking about.

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Dredge
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Message 1245 of 1864 (906596)
02-13-2023 8:58 PM
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02-13-2023 7:45 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
APauling666 writes:
You deny reality.
You can't even spell reality. How APauling.

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