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Message 659 of 1864 (899735)
10-18-2022 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 560 by Dredge
10-09-2022 5:16 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Dredge, you ask if my Biblical interpretations are always
correct.
No one is infallible.
Catholics claim that the Pope is always infallible when
dictating church doctrines.
Furthermore, the RCC is adamant in that the Church has
priority over the Bible.
When one accepts this premise one depends on others
to tell them what is and is not acceptable to God. And,
they have no scripture to verify or annul what they are
told.
My church has opened my eyes to God's plan for
humans, but I always search the scripture in order to
prove or disprove whether they are right or not.
God gave us His 10 Commandments. They were engraved
on stone to show their permanence.
Jesus says in John 14:15 "If you love me, keep my
Commandments."
1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep His
Commandments: and His Commandments are not
grievous."
Revelation 14:12 "Here is the patience of the saints:
here are they tha/ keep the Commandments of God..."
Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are theythat do His
Commandments, that they may have right to the tree
of life..."
Speaking of the 10 Commandments in Deuteronomy 6:8,
God states "And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon
thine hand, and they shall be as frontiers between
thine eyes."
This is repeated in Deuteronomy 11:18.
We accept God's Holy Commandments with our mind,
and we obey them with our hands. We shake on it.
We honor God's Commandments because we love Him,
and we worship Him.
Those that worship the beast and its image also accept
his authority with their mind, and they obey with their
hands.
Those who worship this false religious system receive a
mark in their hand and/or mind.
The RCC deleted God's 2nd Commandment which states:
"Thou shall make unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in
the earth beneath...thou shall not bow down to them."
The RCC worship images, and they bow down to them.
They also worship relics (bones of supposedly dead
saints).
They replaced the Sabbath with "Remember to keep Holy
the Lord's Day."
In order to still have 10 Commandments, the RCC divided
The 10th.
9.Do not covertly thy neighbor's wife.
10. Do not covet thy neighbor's goods.
The RCC thinks to change times and laws.

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Message 668 of 1864 (899772)
10-19-2022 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 661 by Pollux
10-18-2022 9:43 PM


Re: candle2 church
Pollux, there are a number of differences between my
beliefs and those of the SDA.
I do not know how old the earth is, neither does anyone
else.
Satan sat on the throne of earth before the week long
renewal in Genesis.
How long Satan was here before he rebelled? The Bible
is silent about this.
I am not trying to bring members into the Church that I
am a member off.

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Message 669 of 1864 (899773)
10-19-2022 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 663 by dwise1
10-18-2022 11:24 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dwise 1, I do read articles from both sides. A well
rounded individual will do this.
You can lay out articles day after day; month after
months; and, year after year, but dating methods rely on
assumptions. And, assuming something is not science;
it is guesswork.
It is impossible to determine what the atmosphere was
like 5000 years ago.
It is impossible to determine what the atmosphere was
like prior to the global flood.
Do you have the slightest idea how much carbon was
removed from the atmosphere and buried during and
after the flood?
I am not the one with the blinders on here, Dwise 1.
You are.

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Message 673 of 1864 (899798)
10-19-2022 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 672 by nwr
10-19-2022 12:44 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, the wrong assumption can lead to wrong conclusions.
The look of quicksand can be quite deceptive. A foot
stepping into quicksand can become entangled.
Or a foot stepping on a rattlesnake under a pile of leaves
can cost a person his life.
I do not have an issue with someone stating that they
believe in evolution, or that they have confidence in
dating methods.
Just don't try to pass it off as being fact. And don't say
that those who do not believe in these issues do not
support science.

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Message 680 of 1864 (900020)
10-22-2022 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 675 by nwr
10-19-2022 4:23 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, there is no way to test past conditions on earth. Period.
Even if we lay assumptions aside, we cannot get past the
absence of transitional fossils. Nor, can we get around the
fact that never has life been observed coming from
non-life.
If I did not want to believe in the God of creation, I would
still have no other choice.
I am not a big enough fool to believe in an evolutionary
concept that is filled with more holes than Swiss cheese.

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Message 684 of 1864 (900050)
10-22-2022 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 683 by ringo
10-22-2022 1:00 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Ringo, you say that Swiss cheese is not defined by the
holes in it; it is defined by the cheese.
Evolutionists view evolution in the same way that they
see Swiss cheese.
They ignore all of the holes that exist in both.
You can talk all you want, but talk doesn't produce
transitional fossils.
They don't exist. And, you know they don't.
If evolution were true, we would have tens, perhaps
hundreds, of millions of transitional fossils.
Even Darwin who laugh at his own concept if he
knew what we know today.
Even the simple single cell organisms are more
complicated and complex than the most modern
factories.
Evolution is impossible.

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Message 689 of 1864 (900156)
10-24-2022 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 607 by Porkncheese
10-15-2022 6:13 AM


Re: How can Jesus be God if...
Porkncheese, Hebrews 7 records the person called
Melchisedec. He was the King of righteousness. The
High Priest of Salem (Jerusalem).
Abraham paid one tenth of all he owned (tithe) to
Melchisedec.
Melchisedec was without father, without mother,
without descent, having neither beginning of days,
nor end of life. Verse 3.
Melchisedec is the same God Being as the Word in
John 1:1-3, 10, 14.
It should be perfectly clear to anyone with a decent
degree of reading comprehension that the Word in
John is not only with God, but is God.
There has existed from eternity two God Beings.
The Savior that we know as Jesus was, before He was
born of a virgin, known as the Word, as well as
Melchisedec.
The two God Beings want a family of other God Beings.
The Word lay His Devine Essence aside and allowed
Himself to be born a man.
This is when the Father and Son relationship began.
Jesus was aware of His past with God the Father. For
over 33 years these two God Beings, who had always
been together, were separated.
John 1:3, Ephesians 3:9, and Collosians 1:16 state with
with absolute clarity that Jesus, as the Word, created all
things.
And, that without Him not anything was made. The Word
was not created. He was the Creator.
The God Being known as the Father is the undisputed
leader of the Two. He always has been, and always will be.
Jesus, as our Creator, is worth more than all of us. And,
only His life could atone for our sins.
As a man had Jesus sinned humans would remain dead
for all eternity
Satan, as current ruler of this world, was well aware that
Jesus could sin. This is why he tempted Him so
vigorously.
In Revelations 22:13, Jesus said "I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Jesus forgave sin. He allowed others to worship Him
(Matthew 8:2; 9:18; 14:33; & Mark 5:6.
The 2nd Commandment forbade worship to anyone
other than God.
Only God had authority to do such.

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Message 691 of 1864 (900167)
10-24-2022 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 687 by dwise1
10-22-2022 5:49 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dwise 1, read over your reply to me. You offer proof of
nothing.
You sound a lot like Jeff Goldbloom in Jurrasic Park:
"Life will find a way."
It might sound informative, but it means nothing.
My point with the single cell organism is that it is far
too complex to have spontaneously sprang into
existence.
And it had to appear just as it is. Irreducible complexity.
These scientists pushing this load of crap cannot
duplicate this feat, even with their intelligence.
Yet, they want us to accept their word that blind and
unguided evolution did this.

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Message 693 of 1864 (900187)
10-24-2022 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 688 by Phat
10-23-2022 4:38 AM


Re: candle2 church
Phat, Satan gains many more subjects by concealing his
existence.
If people were absolutely convinced that Satan exists, they
would then be convinced that God exists.
Satan could prove his existence without much difficulty,
but then we would have no evolutionists; no agnostics;
and, no atheists to turn people away from God.
A hunter conceals himself from the hunted.
The Hollywood elite, top musicians, politicians (from all
parties and countries), captains of industries, etc... are all
required to pay homage to Satan if they want fame,
wealth, and power during this present age.
Hundreds of celebrities have admitted to selling
themselves to Satan. But people don't believe them.
"Eyes wide shut."
These people are some of the most depraved people
on earth. They are required to corrupt the minds of
the rest of us, especially the young.
Satan's highest ranking demons actually possess
many of them.
Humans have an awesome opportunity that Satan
never had. We can actually become members of the
God family.
Satan hates us for this, with a hate than cannot be
equaled.
Don't ever think that Satan doesn't have a throne or
subjects. He is the ultimate deceiver. It does not matter
to him whether the average person believes that he
exists or not, as long as they do not place their trust in
God.
He knows what his end will be. He wants to bring as
many down with him as possible.

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Message 706 of 1864 (900218)
10-25-2022 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 694 by Pollux
10-24-2022 7:20 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Pollux, you should sue your parents for mentally abusing
you and warping your fragile little mind.
Under Trump America was exporting oil. When he left
office I was paying $1.60 a gallon.
Our border was secure. This idiot now in office has
allowed 2,000,000 illegal immigrants into our country
in less than two years.
Under Trump we lived in relative peace. Under this idiot
America has become a laughing stock.
Under Trump America had its lowest unemployment
among Blacks, Hispanics, and women in decades.
Neither Biden nor Harris are capable of speaking a
single coherent sentence.
Liberals are having gay burlesque shows in grade
schools.
They are also mutilating twelve and thirteen year old
kids.
These young boys are being castrated and young
girls are having their breasts cut off. They are
force fed hormone blockers, and infused with
hormones from the opposite sex.
Can you imagine a political party (Democrats) so
utterly incompetent that they don't know the
differences between males and females.
I could go on and on about the perversions associated
with Liberalism, but you love these perversions.
No one with your warped view of life has any business
speculating on the age of the earth. For you to do so
is laughable. At least it would be if it weren't so
serious.
In any event, I honestly think that you should sue your
parent.

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Message 716 of 1864 (900276)
10-26-2022 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 713 by Pollux
10-25-2022 4:31 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Pollux, it is not difficult to determine the sex of someone.
In a very few instances the sex might not be apparent, but
this is not what we are talking about.
In some instances a female might not be capable of
giving birth, nor a male of impregnating a female.
However there has never been an individual who has the
capability to both get pregnant and impregnate another
individual.
If one can impregnate another person then that person is
a male.
If an individual can get pregnant then that person is a
female.
A person who struggles with this issue needs help. That
individual needs psychological help.
They need help in the same way that an individual who
struggles with anorexia or bulimia needs help.
Who would dare tell a 75 pound anorexic that she should
just go with this perception of herself?
It is this whole Godless attitude of the left that I
abhor.
They think that as soon as a baby's head comes
through the birth canal that it is still acceptable to
crush her precious little head.
Obama and some other Liberals are in favor of
allowing abortions (murders) up until 28 days
after birth.
These same perverts agree that if a baby survives
an abortion attempt that it should be placed in a
back room and allowed to slowly die all alone.
Many times a baby has been heard squealing in pain
as they are being scrambled in their mother's womb.
The reason that the Conservatives on the High Court
took up the abortion issue is that it was getting
completely out of hand.
I am not saying that all Consrrvatives are good,
righteous people, but it is the Progressives who
push these evil agendas.
I dare anyone to look at pictures of these tiny murdered
babies, with their little limbs ripped off, as well as their
heads, and not feel deep remorse and compassion in
their hearts.
One can say that he loves God, but one cannot
distance oneself from one's vote.

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Message 721 of 1864 (900302)
10-26-2022 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 719 by Tanypteryx
10-26-2022 11:10 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Tanyptery, there is no reason for you to be so ignorant
about what is happening.
Take those unfeeling dead eyes that you pretend to see
through and look at the butchered babies. Look them up!
The Liberals are slobbering all over themselves hoping
that their slaughter of the most helpless among us
doesn't come to an end.

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Message 722 of 1864 (900303)
10-26-2022 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 720 by nwr
10-26-2022 1:02 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, are you saying that God despises those who try to
protect innocent life?
There is no cult worse, nor even close, to that of the
Liberal, Progressive Democrats.
And stop pretending that you know what a Christian is.
t's comical.

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Message 725 of 1864 (900337)
10-26-2022 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 723 by Tanypteryx
10-26-2022 3:29 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Tanyptery, I am used to Liberal Democrats behaving
like third graders and resorting to name calling.
Here is just one sight:
The case against abortion: abortion pictures.
Your vote supports this.

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Message 726 of 1864 (900343)
10-26-2022 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 724 by nwr
10-26-2022 3:31 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, I don't make false accusations, that would be a
violation of the 9th Commandment. Thou shall not
bear false witness.
Progressives are more hard-core and determined in
in their pursuit of Liberal policies.

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