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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Tanyptery, here is another site:
Galleries of images of aborted babies. They are closing these images down. I have not yet found the article about Obama and28 days after birth abortion. I have not seen it in 6 or 7 years. In fact I haven't lookedfor it until today. But, I will keep looking.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Nwr, I looked at post 720, and all I saw was someone
who supports any and all abortions, or someone who is incredibly naive and ignorant about what is going on around them. Neither option is anything to be proud of.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2
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Dwise 1, before I reply, tell me all the conditions that you
believe are suitable for the murder of an innocent baby. Don't hold back. List every reason that you feel murderis reasonable. And at what age of development murder is acceptable. Isn't it funny that everyone who believes in abortion hasalready been born? What do you like most about abortion. Is it the fact thathalf of the abortions come from 13 percent of the population?
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dwise, there are a number of verses that condemns
abortion in the Bible. Here are just a few: Exodus 21:22 "If men strive and hurt a woman withchild, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and He shall pay as the judges determine." If by accident someone causes a women to have herbaby prematurely, and the baby lives, the one(s) responsible for the accident must still pay, according to God. Verse 23 "And if any mischief follow, then thou shallgive life for life." If the baby is killed by accident, God states that theone(s) responsible should still be put to death. How much more guilt can one have when heintentionally kills an innocent baby? Psalms 127: 3 "Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord:and the fruit of the womb is His reward." As powerful and mighty as God is, He counts the fruitof the womb (babies) as His own personal reward. Proverbs 6: 16-17 "These six things doth the Lord hate:...A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood." Who is more innocent and helpless than a young baby?
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2
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Dwise, late-term abortion Doctor Kermit Gosnell, of
Philadelphia, performed thousands of abortions over a 17 year career. Dr. Gosnell would deliver infants alive, ant then "snip"the back of their necks to sever the spinal cord. "His technique came to light during a drug bust at hisclinic, because he also dealt in illegal prescription drugs. It seems like you and Dr. Gosnell could have beenbest of friends. You both think alike. God can and will forgive someone for murdering theirown baby, but they must feel deep remorse an seek His forgiveness.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Phat, both sides support the right to choose.
One side supports the right to choose life. The other side supports the right to choose death. One side doesn't have a monopoly on the right to choose.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Ringo, you said that Jesus did not cast the first stone
either. The Pharisees brought a woman to Jesus who had beencaught in the very act of adultery. They insisted that Moses commands those committingadultery to be stoned. Notice that only the woman was brought before Jesus.Both the woman and man caught in adultery were to be stoned. This was a trap and Jesus knew it. This is why He bentdown and starting writing in the ground. What did He write? I don't know. I believe that He was writing the names of the accusersand listing each of their sins. Finally, He replied "He that is without sin among you, lethim first cast a stone at her." Convicted by their conscience of their own sins, theyleft, one after the other. I want you to notice in verse 6, they, the scribes andPharisees, were trying to set Jesus up, that they might accuse him. If Jesus had said "stone her," the Pharisees would havereported this to Pilate. It was against Roman law for anyone other than theproper authority to condemn a person to death. If Jesus had told them not to stone her, they would haveaccused Him of not respecting the law given to Moses by God--who was Jesus (as the Word). Jesus was the member of the God family who wrote the10 Commandments on stone, with His own finger. Notice that Jesus told the adulteress to go and sin nomore. Adultery is still a sin. Misguided people try to use Jesus' words to not cast thefirst stone, as to judge not. To support this belief they quote Matthew 7:1 "Judge notthat ye be no judged." But read verse 5: "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beamout of thine own eyes; AND then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Jesus came into the world to pay our death penalty. Asour Creator His life is worth far more than all of ours combined. His death buys us a resurrection from the dead. At thattime all humans will have access to God's Holy Spirit. They will then be taught by Jesus Himself, and by all those at that time who have already become members of the God family. John 3:17 "For God sent not His Son into the world tocondemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved." But, remember this, both adultery and murder of babiesqualify for the death penalty. It would be really difficult for me to sentence a womanwho had an abortion to death. If a woman keeps sleeping around and having abortions,she should be somehow held accountable. In any event, I believe that a doctor who murders littlebabies should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Taq, isn't it also interesting that Conservatives took a hard
look at slavery and affirmed that it was a moral sin. The Conservatives did not own slaves; so, should they havestayed out of it, and allowed the issue to be determined by the slaves and their owners? Do you think that owning slaves is a far worse sin thanmurdering helpless little babies. Do you think that a man who is promiscuous andimpregnates a woman should be held accountable for his actions?
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Ringo, you wrote should a twelve year old girl who is
raped be executed too. Are you retarded? I am serious. Are you retarded? I never said that anyone should be executed becausethey were raped. We don't even execute the rapist. Why would you thinkthat we should execute the woman who was raped, especially a 12 year old child? Less than one percent of abortions are performed inorder to save the mother's life. This particular situation is between the woman; herhusband, if she has one; and, God. In the case of rape, we do not even execute the rapist.Why would anyone recommend killing the baby, who did nothing wrong? Are there any murders of babies that you are against? Sometimes I get the feeling that you have poor readingskills. Tell me, if you can read, does Ephesians 3:8-10 mentionGod creating all things by Jesus Christ. If it does then stop saying that Jesus did not create allthings. But be honest.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Taq, you say that men who behave irresponsibility
should be held accountable for their actions. Why shouldn't a woman who is promiscuous be held tothe same standard? Also, tell me when a fetus inside a woman is not human. Check your history books. The Republican party did notexists before Lincoln. The Republican Party, took us back to the Constitution,that all men are created equal
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Ringo, my mistake. l said that you were retarded, but.
you prefer mentally challenged. Why don't we just shorten it to MC? On a continum from a zygote to geriatric (aged),we have an embryo; fetus; newborn; infant; toddler; tween; teenager; and, adult. At what stage of development is the individualnot human? Several babies have survived outside the mother'swomb at the tender age of 21 weeks. We can detect a heartbeat by the 6th week. Babies can respond to touch by opening andclosing their their hands and eyes by the 12th weeks. The baby is also capable of smiling by this time. By the 20th week the baby on the humancontinuum has all the physiological connectings in place to feel pain. Some workers who have left this line of work havesaid that they heard the baby scream in pain while being scrambled to death. My question is why does this not bother you, MC? Why so cold and heartless about the most vulnerableof us who have no way to protect themselves? You say that Paul was wrong about Jesus creatingeverything. Well, according to the Bible, who did then createeverything? I never said that a woman who has an abortionshould be executed. I also believe it it wrong to kill a baby who ison the lower end of the human continuum who is conceived by rape. We do not even execute the rapist. It would befar worse to execute an innocent baby. The only reason I could see for an abortion isif the continued pregnancy puts the life of mother or both at a huge risk. But, these situations are quite rare. God is not a heartless animal. He look at our heart,our intentions, for why we do what we do. Lying is a sin. If we sometimes lie in order tokeep someone from being harmed or feeling emotional pain, God know this. In the same way, if an abortion is performed in orderto save the mother's life, God knows why. He will be there to then help the woman through theemotional pain and anguish.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2
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Dwise, the Democratic Party is responsible for Jim Crow
laws. They are also responsible for lynchings; poll taxes; theKKK; the re-emergence of the KKK; lynchings: breakup of the black family; racial strife; and, on top of this, they were responsible for Japanese-American internment during WW2. America's worse cities for crime and poverty are, andhave been, controlled by Democrats, without a Republican anywhere in sight for decades. These cities have received trillions in economic aid; yet,The people responsible (Democrats) for providing change have done nothing to improve conditions. They keep them this way, and then convince them that itis the fault of white Conservatives. They can do this because they have gained control ofacademia and the media. Any open-minded individual who watches the news cansee with crystal clarity the Liberal bias. This same bias in clearly evidenced to anyone going tocollege. Most people have a sheep mentality. You talk of improving the infrastructure. What good is itwhen we will soon not have the fuel in which to operate our vehicles. Unless something drastic happens, we will run out ofdiesel fuel in three weeks. Transportation of goods such as food will slow dranstically. This is not due to incompetence on the part of the Liberalleaders. It is part of their plan. They are breaking us down. Soon there will be no middleclass in America. Didn't you even watch the Democratic Presidental Debates.They tripped all over themselves trying to see who could get rid of fossil fuels the quickest. Or, to prove they were the biggest supporter of Socialism. You are going to feel like a total fool before long.I guarantee it.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Dwise, tell me, and be specific, what current voting laws
are biased against blacks, but not whites.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Taq, make a list of all the racist Democrats who left the
Party after passage of the CRA and the became Republicans.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Taq, since Biden has been in office fuel prices
have doubled and tripled. The price of food has doubled, as well asother commodities. Biden is quick to throw the less fortunate underthe bus. I see no concern and no compassion in his eyes. Blacks, elderly, and those with limited incomesare having a really difficult time, with no end in sight. Do you think the less fortunate deserve betterthan this?
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