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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
custard writes:
Actually that helps make my point that terrorism is essentially criminal behavior rather than something of interest to any one nation and it's self-preservation in the manner that invasion or an {act \ declaration} of war would be. Certainly 50 years of treating terrorism in Israel as something that can be conquered with an army has proven to be absolutely ineffective. Wise people learn from mistakes instead of repeat them, even if they are mistakes made by others. Ah, only if you conclude that victorious terrorism is conquering a piece of land. I think you were referring to a narrower definition of terrorism - but I just wanted to point out that it can be a threat to unstable states. Terrorism can only be a threat if people continue to allow fear to be used against them. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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This message has been edited by RAZD, 07-03-2004 10:33 PM
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
jar writes:
Indeed, but it might be hard to keep people on the tight and narrow of the topic and not get off onto which terrorism and what method of response are {working \ not} and where. "Is terrorism a threat to any nation? " wouold make a great thread. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
How about this for a moral code -- the way the pledge of allegiance was originally envisaged:
any one without the others is crippled: Liberty without justice or equality is not liberty Justice without liberty and equality is not justice Equality without justice and liberty is not equality Enjoy the 4th. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
technically all fundamental christians need to believe this -- it is in the bible ... or it is just another moral convention that has changed over the years as society becomes more civilized.
btw -- this means it is moral to be a slave by the law of universality. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
No answer to the first half of the question. I point this out because it has been my experience that the ones most virulent about other religions have been christians - as though they feel compeled to attack other religions as a way of 'proving' theirs.
I have liked this behavior to racism, as those who are most racist belong to the one race they feel is most favoured. When measured in some crude tests I have run this antitheism of christians equals that of reactionary atheists. Personally I do not have much against christianity per se, but do have a dislike of those who want to dumb down education or replace science with fantasy. That all being said, there is no independant record for the existence of christ (as there is for buddha), exemplified when the burial cask was "found" with the (fake) inscription "James brother of Jesus" and touted as the first proof. surely if there was other proof that statement would have been corrected. enjoy. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
hangdog writes: And what does Buddhism give as an explanation for the cause of life's suffering and "sin"? from
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:The Four Noble Truths: 1. Life is full of pain and suffering. 2. Suffering is caused by people's wants. The reason for suffering is greed! People are never happy with what they have. They always want more. 3. Suffering can be ended if people stop wanting things, like more pleasure, more power, or a longer life. 4. To stop wanting things, people must follow eight basic laws, called the Eightfold Path. Sin is more of a hindu concept (where it predates the christian version) than buddhist. in buddhism the concept used is karma. we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
what is a person who lives in the manner of a "follower and believer of Christ and his teachings, and who obeys his Commandments" but who does not claim to be a christian? I have to ask as this impinges on the concept of morals being social conventions and the obvious existence of moral as well as immoral behavior by those of many religions ... to get back to the thread topic?
we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
so,
Gautama Buddha could have been a christian like person? Gandhi? Imitation of Christ? - Beliefnet
Imitation of Christ? By Harris Wofford writes: When Mohandas K. Gandhi was killed in 1948, among his spare worldly possessions were about a dozen books, including the "Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ" and the gospel of St. John. On the wall by his side was a picture of Jesus with the words, "He is our peace. Gandhi's interest in Jesus began early in his life. In England, sent to learn law in l888, the young Hindu was persuaded to read the Bible even before he had studied the Bhagavad Gita and other Indian classics. The Sermon on the Mount, he said, "went straight to my heart": "When I read in the Sermon on the Mount such passages as...'whoever smiteth thee on thy cheek turn to him the other also' I was simply overjoyed." Something to learn from everyone? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
why is whenever people want to discuss moral systems from a variety of sources ...
.... the christians always make it a discussion about them?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It always has to be me me me ...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
just trying to noodge this back on topic
(armstrong rules ... with mountain evidence ...)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
what about lust for god?
lust for knowledge? lust for a 6 time winner? This message has been edited by RAZD, 07-11-2004 06:41 PM
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