Examples of non-Christian Moral systems.

To Hangdawg13: The Buddhists believed that the truth may be revealed through meditation....The Australian Aborigine and Native American Indians believed that the truth may be revealed through traditional rituals/dances and the ingestion of/exposure to assorted drugs....The Ufologists believe that the truth is out there....The "truth" you're flogging is hardly an original concept, and Christianity is hardly the only seller. Expand your horizons, open your eyes, and explore the world outside the bible - even though free thinking is discouraged by your faith. If you want to know if your hand is indeed phenomenally/abnormally big, all you have to do is compare it with the standard of my hand.

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"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

To Hangdawg13:Thank you for your reply.Reply to your post: So you say. But what you've said is a pure assertion. Changing this around and I get:"As I said before, green pixies can be seen by all, so fairy-tale creatures can be found everywhere. Happy-endings are knowable only by believers."This doesn't progress your case at all. When you say that truth is attainable only with humility, I'd say that free thinking is discouraged. Humility means, literally, to submit. In your case, it is necessary to abandon questioning and a critical approach to the bible's truthfulness, and "submit" under the guise that whatever the bible says is unquestionably true - which in turn is your foundation for the assertion that the Holy Spirit give rise to the ultimate standard of morality.And just in case you don't realise, Christianity IS by all definitions a form of idolatry. I'm afriad that your twisted interpretation of words do not skew their meanings for others. And this is PRECISELY the point I'm making! How can you see so clearly the flaw in my dummy argument when you fail to see the glaring error in YOUR argument that I ripped the reasoning from?My hand is not a standard to you because you do not believe that your God made my hand the standard. Similarly, your Bible is not a standard because all the non-Christians in the world do not believe that your God is the "author of truth".Is it now clear to you why you should step outside Christianity, look around and realise that the world is not as deeply rooted in the "I think therefore I'm right" mindset as you. After numerous unrefuted challenges on your reasoning and arguments, do you still fail to understand why it is ill-adviced to use the Bible as a guideline for the rest of the world?Patiently awaiting your reply.

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"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

To mike_the_wiz: Funny how every time someone informs you that you're twisting the meanings of words to whatever you see fit, you seem to have this unnatural affinity towards accusing them of being "obsessed with the dictionary".If memory serves, I think I too had the honour of being accused as such in the past.Perhaps this is just your way of conceding that your opponent is intellectually superior.By the way, now that you're back, care to shed light on assorted lose ends that you have left untied? I have several threads awaiting your attention. Please don't make me remind you again.

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"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

To Hangdawg13: If you keep it to yourself, not at all.If you and two hundred other men all believe that each of you have Wonder Woman (while agreeing that there can be only one), and the bunch of yous regularly kill each other for asserting that they have The One, then yes, I believe we have a problem.If you force the education department to teach children that Wonder Woman is not only real, but is watching TV in your house, then yes, I think there is a problem.If you prohibit the education department from teaching physics because you believe that Wonder Woman does some physics-defying stunts, then yes, I believe there is a problem.If you repeatedly claim in public that you have Wonder Woman, but when investigated in depth, it was revealed that there is no evidence to suggest that your girl is Wonder Woman, then I guess you have taken the risk of misleading others with falsehood.Have I made my point yet? Depends on what you mean by "teach".If you use "teach" to mean "informing others of what you believe", then I believe that it is no less healthy than promoting any other religion.If you use "teach" to mean "broadcast to the public as the truth" or "change laws to accommodate the moral codes of the bible" or "judge others openly based on the Bible's moral codes" then you must ALSO give other religions (including cults and sects) the rights to do so as well. I guess it should be obvious why this is ill-advised.Patiently awaiting your reply.

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"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

To mike_the_wiz:...and when someone successfully demonstrates how your reasoning is flawed, how your logic is unsound, how you are being ambiguous and idiosyncratic, how you are ignoring opposing arguments, how you are feigning ignorance, how you are not making sense, or how you fit the definition of a *cough* bigot *cough*, you simply shut your eyes, muff your ears and chants: "This is not happening, this is not happening...." while ignoring their posts.My posts in the "Prayers vs. Divine Plan" and "Lucifer/Satan is bad" threads require your attention. Please don't make me ask you again.

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"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"