Examples of non-Christian Moral systems.

Actually that helps make my point that terrorism is essentially criminal behavior rather than something of interest to any one nation and it's self-preservation in the manner that invasion or an {act \ declaration} of war would be. Certainly 50 years of treating terrorism in Israel as something that can be conquered with an army has proven to be absolutely ineffective. Wise people learn from mistakes instead of repeat them, even if they are mistakes made by others.Terrorism can only be a threat if people continue to allow fear to be used against them.

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deleted duplicate messageThis message has been edited by RAZD, 07-03-2004 10:33 PM

Indeed, but it might be hard to keep people on the tight and narrow of the topic and not get off onto which terrorism and what method of response are {working \ not} and where.

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How about this for a moral code -- the way the pledge of allegiance was originally envisaged:

Liberty, Justice and Equality for All

any one without the others is crippled:Liberty without justice or equality is not libertyJustice without liberty and equality is not justiceEquality without justice and liberty is not equalityEnjoy the 4th.

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technically all fundamental christians need to believe this -- it is in the bible ... or it is just another moral convention that has changed over the years as society becomes more civilized.btw -- this means it is moral to be a slave by the law of universality.

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No answer to the first half of the question. I point this out because it has been my experience that the ones most virulent about other religions have been christians - as though they feel compeled to attack other religions as a way of 'proving' theirs.I have liked this behavior to racism, as those who are most racist belong to the one race they feel is most favoured. When measured in some crude tests I have run this antitheism of christians equals that of reactionary atheists.Personally I do not have much against christianity per se, but do have a dislike of those who want to dumb down education or replace science with fantasy.That all being said, there is no independant record for the existence of christ (as there is for buddha), exemplified when the burial cask was "found" with the (fake) inscription "James brother of Jesus" and touted as the first proof.surely if there was other proof that statement would have been corrected.enjoy.

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The Four Noble Truths: Sin is more of a hindu concept (where it predates the christian version) than buddhist. in buddhism the concept used is karma.

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what is a person who lives in the manner of a "follower and believer of Christ and his teachings, and who obeys his Commandments" but who does not claim to be a christian? I have to ask as this impinges on the concept of morals being social conventions and the obvious existence of moral as well as immoral behavior by those of many religions ... to get back to the thread topic?

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so,Gautama Buddha could have been a christian like person? Gandhi?Imitation of Christ? - Beliefnet Something to learn from everyone?

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why is whenever people want to discuss moral systems from a variety of sources ....... the christians always make it a discussion about them?

It always has to be me me me ...

just trying to noodge this back on topic (armstrong rules ... with mountain evidence ...)

what about lust for god?
lust for knowledge?lust for a 6 time winner?This message has been edited by RAZD, 07-11-2004 06:41 PM