Women and the Fundamentalist View of Marriage

My wife doesn't, although as she has borne 5 babies and is nearing 40, it seems the hormonal aspect has kicked in more.But crash, a lot of women really do have pms problems. As a guy, I know it's hard to believe, but they have hormonal issues that kick in every month for some women. Of course, they say there is a little bit of that for men, or at times during their lives.

Maybe because women are generally superiour at social relationships (when they want to be at least), God in his mercy let us men have the lead role, at least on paper, so there'd be more balance.....? Women after all usually do dominate the domestic situation, although there are always exceptions, and men that are the sole bread winner need some encouragement for leadership, and will need wisdom in their dealings outside the home...just speculation, mind you

Christianity is the primary vehicle that elevated women above chattel status. If you want to look at women's status without Christianity, just look at places like Japan or Islamic states where Christianity is not as influential.

Feminism didn't exist until after women were granted equal rights in many areas, such as woman's suffrage, etc,...The historical impetus for women's equality stemmed from Christianity, often being led by female ministers of the gospel.

Read your history.1. Women were elevated by the teachings of Jesus Christ and the New Testament, even Paul, in the claims that "there is neither male, nor female...in Christ." This spiritual equality had profound influences on raising women above chattel status, which is why it is among nations which had a strong, Christian influence that women began to be treated as more equal.2. Women ministers, such as Phebe Palmer, and revival movements held that females could preach and teach, and this assertion of a leadership role throughout times of revivals in Christian history, especially in the 1800s in America, but in previous times as well such as with the Quakers, or even among dissenters like Anne Hutchinson in Massuchusetts (not vouching for her but just an illustration) were where women's equality was being asserted, and the simple fact is female ministers pretty much led the way in the 1800s. Anyone denying their influence in the Holiness movement and other Christian movements as to their effect on women's rights is just being ignorant of history.

Sorry, but if you are going to misrepresent what I wrote, I have no interest in discussing this with you.Female preachers are not school-teachers. I suggest you take some women's studies courses in history, or at a minimum read up on the issue.This message has been edited by randman, 01-19-2006 03:24 PM

Pastoring churches and preaching in churches as a minister of the gospel is a wee bit more authoritative than being a school-teacher, but then again, I suspect you knew that, didn't you?

My reason is I have actually taken some time to learn about the history of the woman's movement, something you have not apparently, and like all who are knowledgeable in this area, recognize the role that women preachers played.Specifically, in a lot of ways, the woman's movement grew out of abolitionism and revivalism which had it's roots among a certion portion of the ministry. It's no accident, for example, that Oberlin College was the first coeducational facility and that Finney, one of the more prominent revivalists in American history, presided over the Divinity school at the time, and later took over as president.

Dan, on the feminism issue, I suppose it depends on how you define the term, but the simple fact is the woman's movement grew out of Christianity. There is a reason Lucretia Mott was a Quaker and that Quakers had a long history in practice and theology of accepting women as equals.The sad fact is you just do not want to credit the role of Christianity out of personal bias, not from historical understanding.

Women being treated as equals grew out of revivalist Christianity, such as kicked off the Quakers. It's a simple fact of history.