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Author Topic:   Women and the Fundamentalist View of Marriage
Yaro
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Message 241 of 314 (278664)
01-13-2006 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by iano
01-13-2006 12:13 PM


Re: Women and the Fundamentalist View of Marriage
iano, how do your views on the bibles possition gel with the actuall practices of the cultures who penned them?
Namely, how were women treated by early christians, and early christian cultures?

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Yaro
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Message 249 of 314 (278706)
01-13-2006 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by iano
01-13-2006 1:58 PM


Re: How can a head be a head if the follower won't follow?
In order to examine the rate of failure of "People Who Say They Are Christians" marriages, one could refer to the data concerning such marriages.
But I'm not sure what light the former statistics would shed on what the situation is with actual Christians. Patently claiming to be something cannot be taken as an indication of fact
Sounds like a "no true scotsman" sittuation. What critera determins someone being a true christian?

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Yaro
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Message 256 of 314 (278941)
01-14-2006 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by johnfolton
01-10-2006 10:40 PM


Juvenile Delinquents
This is a general reply to the issues of missbehaving kids.
I have this little book: "The Good Old Days: They Were Terrible!". It's a book that sort of dipels the myth that somehow in the days of yor people were better off, or society was more stable, moral, etc.
Infact, Juvenile Delinquency was a plague of the cities in the late 1800's and early 1900's. This particular book cites statistics saying that in any given month upward of 10'000 children were in jail in chicago alone.
Fact is tho, those children weren't really considered children as when you were about 8 you were considered fit to work. Often kids left the house at 13 to go fend for themselves.
In a chapter titled Discipline it talks about the "little red school house" of days gone by. As it turns out, discipline was a major problem back in those days. They even had their own "columbine" incedents where a teacher, who punished one of the kids, was ganged up on by the entire class and stoned to death!
Anyway, just wanted to dispel the nonsense about liberal's don't beat their kids enugh.

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Yaro
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Message 282 of 314 (279880)
01-18-2006 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by iano
01-18-2006 12:31 PM


Re: It is mine to sacrifice...Brenna it is
God doesn't change. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. A wife is the property of her husband as is the husband the property of his wife.
When folk treated woman like chattel in those days they weren't living according to Gods model - they were living according to the worlds model that so many try to live by today: unequal pay, unequal promotional opportunity, women as sex objects, the beauty industry etc. Its more sophisticated but not all that different
I find these odd statements. What makes you think god wasn't cool with chattel? I mean, take a look at the OT. It's nothing but how to treat women as propertie.

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