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Author Topic:   God is evil if He has miracles and does not use them.
Taq
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Message 144 of 390 (750666)
02-20-2015 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by ringo
02-20-2015 11:35 AM


Re: Excellent! Excellent, Frankie!
We have to look at it from the human viewpoint: God can't please the rape victim and the rapist at the same time - not to mention the people who think she should be raped and the people who think she shouldn't.
If that is the twisted moral argument that you have to make, I think it illustrates just how bad the argument is. If God is just, then he wouldn't please the rapist.
The problem is that God is capricious. God will destroy an entire population for rape in one instance, and do nothing in the other. The Bible describes God coming to the aid of the rape victim, the person who is ill, and the other miracles. So why do so in some instances, but not others? In the end, our world appears to be the same as one where God does nothing.
What it boils down to is the dragon that lives in Sagan's garage. If there is no difference between God existing and not existing, then why say that God exists?

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Message 174 of 390 (750882)
02-23-2015 6:21 PM
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02-23-2015 10:17 AM


Re: Can there be an Evil God?
If God is evil according to some society that does not mean that god is evil to any honest and thinking person. It means that that society considers that God to be evil.
Then ask yourself what a good and honest person would do in this scenario.
There is a 5 year old playing in a yard a little distance ahead of you. As you walk down the sidewalk you see the child start walking towards the sidewalk. When you get to the front yard you watch as the child passes right in front of you and walks out into the road where the child sits down right in the middle of the lane. In the distance, you see a car coming straight for that child. What would an honest and thinking person do? What does God do, or not do, in that same situation? If you did nothing and just watched the car hit the child, would you be an evil person?

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Message 186 of 390 (751014)
02-25-2015 7:28 PM
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02-23-2015 7:15 PM


Re: Can there be an Evil God?
Whether or not I would be an evil person depends on what society, culture and era I happen to belong to and what society, culture and era the incident happened in.
In what society is the wanton death of children considered moral?

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Message 188 of 390 (751050)
02-26-2015 3:15 PM
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02-25-2015 10:19 PM


Re: Can there be an Evil God?
Inca, 13th to 16th century.
Uganda, 21st century.
Last I checked, society considered the Ugandan genocides to be immoral.
In what way did the Incans wantonly kill children. Did they just sit next to cliffs and let their babies crawl around?

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